[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Buddhist Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha) › [The Pāli Canon](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada) › [Basket of Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp) › [Dīghanikāya](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha) › [Mahasihanadasutta](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8) › 16.1-30 # Mahasihanadasutta 16.1-30 Mahāsīhanādasutta 16.1-30 - **Language:** Pāli ### [16.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.1) Evaṃ vutte, acelo kassapo bhagavantaṃ etadavoca: > When he had spoken, Kassapa said to the Buddha, > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.2) “dukkaraṃ, bho gotama, sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan”ti. > “It’s hard, worthy Gotama, to be a true ascetic or a true brahmin.” > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.3) “Pakati kho esā, kassapa, lokasmiṃ ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. > “It’s typical, Kassapa, in this world to think that it’s hard to be a true ascetic or brahmin. > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.4) Acelako cepi, kassapa, hoti, muttācāro, hatthāpalekhano …pe… iti evarūpaṃ addhamāsikampi pariyāyabhattabhojanānuyogamanuyutto viharati. > But someone might practice all those forms of mortification. > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.5) Imāya ca, kassapa, mattāya iminā tapopakkamena sāmaññaṃ vā abhavissa brahmaññaṃ vā dukkaraṃ sudukkaraṃ, netaṃ abhavissa kallaṃ vacanāya: > And if it was only because of just that much, only because of that course of fervent mortification that it was so very hard to be a true ascetic or brahmin, it wouldn’t be appropriate to say that > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.6) ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. > it’s hard to be a true ascetic or brahmin. > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.7) Sakkā ca panetaṃ abhavissa kātuṃ gahapatinā vā gahapatiputtena vā antamaso kumbhadāsiyāpi: > For it would be quite possible for a householder or a householder’s child—or even the bonded maid who carries the water-jar— > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.8](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.8) ‘handāhaṃ acelako homi, muttācāro, hatthāpalekhano …pe… iti evarūpaṃ addhamāsikampi pariyāyabhattabhojanānuyogamanuyutto viharāmī’ti. > to practice all those forms of mortification. > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.9](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.9) Yasmā ca kho, kassapa, aññatreva imāya mattāya aññatra iminā tapopakkamena sāmaññaṃ vā hoti brahmaññaṃ vā dukkaraṃ sudukkaraṃ, tasmā etaṃ kallaṃ vacanāya: > It’s because there’s something other than just that much, something other than that course of fervent mortification that it’s so very hard to be a true ascetic or brahmin. And that’s why it is appropriate to say that > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.10](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.10) ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. > it’s hard to be a true ascetic or brahmin. > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.11](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.11) Yato kho, kassapa, bhikkhu averaṃ abyāpajjaṃ mettacittaṃ bhāveti, āsavānañca khayā anāsavaṃ cetovimuttiṃ paññāvimuttiṃ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṃ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati. > Take a mendicant who develops a heart of love, free of enmity and ill will. And they realize the undefiled freedom of heart and freedom by wisdom, and live having realized it with their own insight in this very life due to the ending of defilements. > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.12](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.12) Ayaṃ vuccati, kassapa, bhikkhu samaṇo itipi brāhmaṇo itipi. > When they achieve this, they’re a mendicant who is called a ‘true ascetic’ and also ‘a true brahmin’. …” > — The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa ### [16.13](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.13) Sākabhakkho cepi, kassapa, hoti, sāmākabhakkho …pe… vanamūlaphalāhāro yāpeti pavattaphalabhojī. ### [16.14](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.14) Imāya ca, kassapa, mattāya iminā tapopakkamena sāmaññaṃ vā abhavissa brahmaññaṃ vā dukkaraṃ sudukkaraṃ, netaṃ abhavissa kallaṃ vacanāya: ### [16.15](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.15) ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. ### [16.16](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.16) Sakkā ca panetaṃ abhavissa kātuṃ gahapatinā vā gahapatiputtena vā antamaso kumbhadāsiyāpi: ### [16.17](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.17) ‘handāhaṃ sākabhakkho vā homi, sāmākabhakkho vā …pe… vanamūlaphalāhāro yāpemi pavattaphalabhojī’ti. ### [16.18](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.18) Yasmā ca kho, kassapa, aññatreva imāya mattāya aññatra iminā tapopakkamena sāmaññaṃ vā hoti brahmaññaṃ vā dukkaraṃ sudukkaraṃ, tasmā etaṃ kallaṃ vacanāya: ### [16.19](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.19) ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. ### [16.20](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.20) Yato kho, kassapa, bhikkhu averaṃ abyāpajjaṃ mettacittaṃ bhāveti, āsavānañca khayā anāsavaṃ cetovimuttiṃ paññāvimuttiṃ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṃ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati. ### [16.21](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.21) Ayaṃ vuccati, kassapa, bhikkhu samaṇo itipi brāhmaṇo itipi. ### [16.22](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.22) Sāṇāni cepi, kassapa, dhāreti, masāṇānipi dhāreti …pe… sāyatatiyakampi udakorohanānuyogamanuyutto viharati. ### [16.23](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.23) Imāya ca, kassapa, mattāya iminā tapopakkamena sāmaññaṃ vā abhavissa brahmaññaṃ vā dukkaraṃ sudukkaraṃ, netaṃ abhavissa kallaṃ vacanāya: ### [16.24](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.24) ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. ### [16.25](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.25) Sakkā ca panetaṃ abhavissa kātuṃ gahapatinā vā gahapatiputtena vā antamaso kumbhadāsiyāpi: ### [16.26](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.26) ‘handāhaṃ sāṇānipi dhāremi, masāṇānipi dhāremi …pe… sāyatatiyakampi udakorohanānuyogamanuyutto viharāmī’ti. ### [16.27](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.27) Yasmā ca kho, kassapa, aññatreva imāya mattāya aññatra iminā tapopakkamena sāmaññaṃ vā hoti brahmaññaṃ vā dukkaraṃ sudukkaraṃ, tasmā etaṃ kallaṃ vacanāya: ### [16.28](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.28) ‘dukkaraṃ sāmaññaṃ dukkaraṃ brahmaññan’ti. ### [16.29](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.29) Yato kho, kassapa, bhikkhu averaṃ abyāpajjaṃ mettacittaṃ bhāveti, āsavānañca khayā anāsavaṃ cetovimuttiṃ paññāvimuttiṃ diṭṭheva dhamme sayaṃ abhiññā sacchikatvā upasampajja viharati. ### [16.30](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.30) Ayaṃ vuccati, kassapa, bhikkhu samaṇo itipi brāhmaṇo itipī”ti. ## Translations (4) - [The Lion’s Roar to the Naked Ascetic Kassapa](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8~en-sujato.16.1) — English - [Das Löwengebrüll vor dem nackten Asketen Kassapa](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8~de-sabbamitta.16.1) — German - [Dugi govor o lavljem riku](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8~sr-brankokovacevic.16.1) — sr - [Kassapa Sihanada Sutta (Dialogues of the Buddha)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8~en-rhysdavids.1.16) — English ## Commentaries (1) - [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.8.398) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli ## Linked texts (1) - [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.25.17) — Classical Chinese --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.1-30](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.8.16.1-30) · Pramāṇa