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# With Poṭṭhapāda 21.1-7

Poṭṭhapādasutta 21.1-7

- **Language:** Pāli

### [21.1](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.1)

“Saññā nu kho, bhante, purisassa attā, udāhu aññā saññā añño attā”ti?

> “Sir, is perception a person’s self, or are perception and self different things?”  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

### [21.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.2)

“Kaṃ pana tvaṃ, poṭṭhapāda, attānaṃ paccesī”ti?

> “But Poṭṭhapāda, do you believe in a self?”  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

### [21.3](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.3)

“Oḷārikaṃ kho ahaṃ, bhante, attānaṃ paccemi rūpiṃ cātumahābhūtikaṃ kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkhan”ti.

> “I believe in a solid self, sir, which is formed, made up of the four principal states, and consumes edible food.”  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

### [21.4](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.4)

“Oḷāriko ca hi te, poṭṭhapāda, attā abhavissa rūpī cātumahābhūtiko kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkho. Evaṃ santaṃ kho te, poṭṭhapāda, aññāva saññā bhavissati añño attā.

> “Suppose there was such a solid self, Poṭṭhapāda. In that case, perception would be one thing, the self another.  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

### [21.5](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.5)

Tadamināpetaṃ, poṭṭhapāda, pariyāyena veditabbaṃ yathā aññāva saññā bhavissati añño attā.

> Here is another way to understand how perception and self are different things.  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

### [21.6](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.6)

Tiṭṭhateva sāyaṃ, poṭṭhapāda, oḷāriko attā rūpī cātumahābhūtiko kabaḷīkārāhārabhakkho, atha imassa purisassa aññā ca saññā uppajjanti, aññā ca saññā nirujjhanti.

> So long as that solid self remains, still some perceptions arise in a person and others cease.  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

### [21.7](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9.21.7)

Iminā kho etaṃ, poṭṭhapāda, pariyāyena veditabbaṃ yathā aññāva saññā bhavissati añño attā”ti.

> That is a way to understand how perception and self are different things.”  
> — With Poṭṭhapāda

## Translations (4)

- [Razgovor sa Poṭṭhapādom](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9~sr-brankokovacevic.21.1) — sr
- [Mit Poṭṭhapāda](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9~de-sabbamitta.21.1) — German
- [With Poṭṭhapāda](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9~en-sujato.21.1) — English
- [Potthapada Sutta (Dialogues of the Buddha)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha.9~en-rhysdavids.1.21) — English

## Commentaries (1)

- [Sumaṅgalavilāsinī](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.theravada.sp.digha!sumangalavilasini.9.417) — Buddhaghosa, Pāli

## Linked texts (1)

- [長阿含經](https://indike.org/pramana/in.bauddha.sanskrit.agama.dirghagama*zh-buddhayasas.28.20) — Classical Chinese

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