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With Poṭṭhapāda 34.1-24

Poṭṭhapādasutta 34.1-24

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Pāli

34.1

Santi, poṭṭhapāda, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṃvādino evaṃdiṭṭhino:

There are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view:

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34.2

‘ekantasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṃ maraṇā’ti.

‘The self is absolutely happy and free of disease after death.’

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34.3

Tyāhaṃ upasaṅkamitvā evaṃ vadāmi:

I go up to them and say,

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34.4

‘saccaṃ kira tumhe āyasmanto evaṃvādino evaṃdiṭṭhino:

‘Is it really true that this is the venerables’ view?’

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34.5

“ekantasukhī attā hoti arogo paraṃ maraṇā”’ti?

34.6

Te ce me evaṃ puṭṭhā ‘āmā’ti paṭijānanti.

And they answer, ‘Yes’.

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34.7

Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi:

I say to them,

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34.8

‘api pana tumhe āyasmanto ekantasukhaṃ lokaṃ jānaṃ passaṃ viharathā’ti?

‘But do you meditate knowing and seeing an absolutely happy world?’

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34.9

Iti puṭṭhā ‘no’ti vadanti.

Asked this, they say, ‘No.’

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34.10

Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi:

I say to them,

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34.11

‘api pana tumhe āyasmanto ekaṃ vā rattiṃ ekaṃ vā divasaṃ upaḍḍhaṃ vā rattiṃ upaḍḍhaṃ vā divasaṃ ekantasukhiṃ attānaṃ sañjānāthā’ti?

‘But have you perceived an absolutely happy self for a single day or night, or even half a day or night?’

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34.12

Iti puṭṭhā ‘no’ti vadanti.

Asked this, they say, ‘No.’

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34.13

Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi:

I say to them,

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34.14

‘api pana tumhe āyasmanto jānātha:

‘But do you know

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34.15

“ayaṃ maggo ayaṃ paṭipadā ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāyā”’ti?

a path and a practice to realize an absolutely happy world?’

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34.16

Iti puṭṭhā ‘no’ti vadanti.

Asked this, they say, ‘No.’

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34.17

Tyāhaṃ evaṃ vadāmi:

I say to them,

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34.18

‘api pana tumhe āyasmanto yā tā devatā ekantasukhaṃ lokaṃ upapannā, tāsaṃ bhāsamānānaṃ saddaṃ suṇātha:

‘But have you ever heard the voice of the deities reborn in an absolutely happy world saying,

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34.19

“suppaṭipannāttha, mārisā, ujuppaṭipannāttha, mārisā, ekantasukhassa lokassa sacchikiriyāya;

“Practice well, good fellows, practice directly so as to realize an absolutely happy world.

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34.20

mayampi hi, mārisā, evaṃpaṭipannā ekantasukhaṃ lokaṃ upapannā”’ti?

For this is how we practiced, and we were reborn in an absolutely happy world”?’

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34.21

Iti puṭṭhā ‘no’ti vadanti.

Asked this, they say, ‘No.’

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34.22

Taṃ kiṃ maññasi, poṭṭhapāda,

What do you think, Poṭṭhapāda?

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34.23

nanu evaṃ sante tesaṃ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṃ appāṭihīrakataṃ bhāsitaṃ sampajjatī”ti?

This being so, doesn’t what they say turn out to have no demonstrable basis?”

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34.24

“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṃ sante tesaṃ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṃ appāṭihīrakataṃ bhāsitaṃ sampajjatī”ti.

“Clearly that’s the case, sir.”

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