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# Viyahapannatti 17.2.702

Viyāhapannatti 17.2.702

- **Language:** Ardhamāgadhī Prakrit

### [17.2.702](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.17.2.702)

deve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! mahiḍḍhie jāva mahesakkhe puvvāmeva rūvī bhavittā pabhū arūviṃ viuvvittā ṇaṃ ciṭṭhittae?  
no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe|  
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–deve ṇaṃ mahiḍḍhie jāva mahesakkhe puvvāmeva rūvī bhavittā no pabhū arūviṃ viuvvittā ṇaṃ ciṭṭhittae?  
goyamā! ahameyaṃ jāṇāmi, ahameyaṃ pāsāmi, ahameyaṃ bujjhāmi, ahameyaṃ abhisamaṇṇāgacchāmi, mae eyaṃ nāyaṃ, mae eyaṃ diṭṭhaṃ, mama eyaṃ buddhaṃ, mae eyaṃ abhisamaṇṇāgayaṃ–jaṇṇaṃ tahāgayassa jīvassa sarūvissa, sakammassa, sarāgassa, savedassa, samohassa, salesassa, sasarīrassa, tāo sarīrāo avippamukkassa evaṃ paṇṇāyati, taṃ jahā–kālatte vā jāva sukkilatte vā, subbhigaṃdhatte vā, dubbhigaṃdhatte vā, tittatte vā jāva mahuratte vā, kakkhaḍatte vā jāva lukkhatte vā| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai–deve ṇaṃ mahiḍḍhie jāva mahesakkhe puvvāmeva rūvī bhavittā no pabhū arūviṃ viuvvittā ṇaṃ ciṭṭhittae|  
sacceva ṇaṃ bhaṃte! se jīve puvvāmeva arūvī bhavittā pabhū rūviṃ viuvvittā ṇaṃ ciṭṭhittae?  
no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe|  
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–sacceva ṇaṃ se jīve puvvāmeva arūvī bhavittā no pabhū rūviṃ viuvvittā ṇaṃciṭṭhittae?  
goyamā! ahameyaṃ jāṇāmi, ahameyaṃ pāsāmi, ahameyaṃ bujjhāmi, ahameyaṃ abhisamaṇṇāgacchāmi, mae eyaṃ nāyaṃ, mae eyaṃ diṭṭhaṃ mama eyaṃ buddhaṃ, mae eyaṃ abhisamaṇṇāgayaṃ–jaṇṇaṃ tahāgayassa jīvassa arūvissa, akammassa, arāgassa, avedassa, amohassa, ale-sassa, asarīrassa, tāo sarīrāo vippamukkassa no evaṃ paṇṇāyati, taṃ jahā–kālatte vā jāva sukkilatte vā, subbhigaṃdhatte vā, dubbhi-gaṃdhatte vā, tittatte vā jāva mahuratte vā, kakkhaḍatte vā jāva lukkhatte vā| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai–sacceva ṇaṃ se jīve puvvā meva arūvī bhavittā no pabhū rūvi viuvvittā ṇaṃ ciṭṭhittae|  
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|

> "Venerable Sir! Is a deva of great power, up to of great majesty, having formerly had form, able to transform \[himself\] into formless and remain \[so\]?"  
> "This matter is not tenable."  
> "For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'A deva of great power, up to of great majesty, having formerly had form, is not able to transform \[himself\] into formless and remain \[so\]'?"  
> "Gautama! I know this, I see this, I comprehend this, I fully realize this; by me this has been known, by me this has been seen, by me this has been comprehended, by me this has been fully realized: that in the case of such a jīva having form, with karma, with passion, with gender, with delusion, with lesyā, with body, and not separated from that body, such is perceived, namely: blackness or up to whiteness, fragrant odor or foul odor, bitterness or up to sweetness, hardness or up to dryness. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: 'A deva of great power, up to of great majesty, having formerly had form, is not able to transform \[himself\] into formless and remain \[so\].'"  
> "Venerable Sir! Is that very same jīva, having formerly been formless, able to transform \[itself\] into possessing form and remain \[so\]?"  
> "This matter is not tenable."  
> "For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'That very same jīva, having formerly been formless, is not able to transform \[itself\] into possessing form and remain \[so\]'?"  
> "Gautama! I know this, I see this, I comprehend this, I fully realize this; by me this has been known, by me this has been seen, by me this has been comprehended, by me this has been fully realized: that in the case of such a jīva being formless, without karma, without passion, without gender, without delusion, without lesyā, without body, and separated from that body, such is not perceived, namely: blackness or up to whiteness, fragrant odor or foul odor, bitterness or up to sweetness, hardness or up to dryness. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: 'That very same jīva, having formerly been formless, is not able to transform \[itself\] into possessing form and remain \[so\].'"  
> "So it is, Venerable Sir! So it is, Venerable Sir!"  
> — English (machine translation) (machine translation)

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## Translations (3)

- [Viyāhapannatti: Hindi translation (Dīparatnasāgara, 2019)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5~hi-deepratnasagar2019.17.2.702) — Hindi
- [Viyāhapannatti: Gujarati translation (Dīparatnasāgara, 2020)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5~gu-deepratnasagar2020.17.2.702) — Gujarati
- [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5~en-mt.17.2.702) — English, machine translation

## Commentaries (2)

- [Viyāhapannatti: ṭīkānusārī vivecana](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5!deepratnasagar.1058) — Muni Dīparatnasāgara 2000, Gujarati
- [Bhagavatīvṛtti](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5!abhayadeva.v6.p232) — Abhayadeva Sūri, Sanskrit

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