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Four yugmas have been expounded, namely: kṛtayugma up to kalyoja." > "For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'Four yugmas have been expounded, namely: kṛtayugma up to kalyoja'?" > "Just as in the eighteenth śataka, the fourth uddeśaka, exactly so up to: 'For that reason, Gautama, it is said thus.'" > "For the inhabitants of hell, Venerable Sir, how many yugmas have been expounded?" > "Gautama! Four yugmas have been expounded, namely: kṛtayugma up to kalyoja." > "For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'For the inhabitants of hell four yugmas have been expounded, namely: kṛtayugma...'?" > "The explanation is the same. Likewise up to wind-bodied souls." > "Venerable Sir, regarding plant-bodied souls—" \[the query\]. > "Gautama! Plant-bodied souls are sometimes kṛtayugma, sometimes tryoja, sometimes dvāparayugma, sometimes kalyoja." > "For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'Plant-bodied souls up to sometimes kalyoja'?" > "Gautama! With reference to rebirth. For that reason, it is the same. Two-sensed beings are like the inhabitants of hell. Likewise up to the vaimānikas. Liberated souls are like plant-bodied souls." > "Of how many kinds, Venerable Sir, have all substances been expounded?" > "Gautama! All substances have been expounded as sixfold, namely: the substance of the principle of motion, the substance of the principle of rest up to the temporal unit of time." > "Venerable Sir, is the substance of the principle of motion, in terms of substance, kṛtayugma up to kalyoja?" > "Gautama! It is not kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma; it is kalyoja. Likewise also the substance of the principle of rest; likewise also the substance of space." > "Venerable Sir, the substance of the soul—" \[the query\]. > "Gautama! It is kṛtayugma; not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja." > "Venerable Sir, the substance of matter—" \[the query\]. > "Gautama! It is sometimes kṛtayugma up to sometimes kalyoja. The temporal unit of time is like the substance of the soul." > "Venerable Sir, is the substance of the principle of motion, in terms of space-points, kṛtayugma—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! It is kṛtayugma; not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja. Likewise up to the temporal unit of time." > "Among these, Venerable Sir, the substance of the principle of motion, the substance of the principle of rest up to temporal units of time, in terms of substance—?" > "Their comparative numerical proportion is completely just as in the 'Many Statements'." > "Venerable Sir, is the substance of the principle of motion occupied \[in space\] or unoccupied?" > "Gautama! It is occupied, not unoccupied." > "If it is occupied, is it occupied by numerable space-points, occupied by innumerable space-points, or occupied by infinite space-points?" > "Gautama! It is not occupied by numerable space-points; it is occupied by innumerable space-points; it is not occupied by infinite space-points." > "If it is occupied by innumerable space-points, is it occupied by a kṛtayugma of space-points—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! It is occupied by a kṛtayugma of space-points, not occupied by a tryoja of space-points, not occupied by a dvāparayugma of space-points, not occupied by a kalyoja of space-points. Likewise also the substance of the principle of rest; likewise also the substance of space. The substance of the soul, the substance of matter, and the temporal unit of time are just the same." > "Venerable Sir, is this Ratnaprabhā earth occupied or unoccupied?" > "Just as the substance of the principle of motion. Likewise up to the seventh lower earth. In Saudharma it is just the same. Likewise up to the Īṣatprāgbhārā earth." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.882](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.882) jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! davvaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, kaliyoge| evaṃ neraie vi| evaṃ jāva siddhe| jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! davvaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajummā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, kaliyogā| neraiyā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! davvaṭṭhayāe–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, kali-yogā| evaṃ jāva siddhā| jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! padesaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! jīvapadese paḍucca kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, no kaliyoge| sarīrapadese paḍucca siya kaḍajumme jāva siya kaliyoge| evaṃ jāva vemāṇie| siddhe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! padesaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, no kaliyoge| jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! padesaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajummā–pucchā| goyamā! jīvapadese paḍucca oghādeseṇa vi vihāṇādeseṇa vi kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā| sarīrapa-dese paḍucca oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummā vi jāva kaliyogā vi| evaṃ neraiyā vi| evaṃ jāva vemāṇiyā| siddhā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! –pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇa vi vihāṇādeseṇa vi kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā| > "Venerable Sir, is a soul, in terms of substance, kṛtayugma—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! It is not kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma; it is kalyoja. Likewise also an inhabitant of hell; likewise up to a liberated soul." > "Venerable Sir, are souls, in terms of substance, kṛtayugma—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! In general terms (oghādeśena), they are kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja; in specific terms (vidhānādeśena), they are not kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, \[but\] kalyoja." > "Venerable Sir, inhabitants of hell, in terms of substance—" \[the query\]. > "Gautama! In general terms, they are sometimes kṛtayugma up to sometimes kalyoja; in specific terms, they are not kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, \[but\] kalyoja. Likewise up to liberated souls." > "Venerable Sir, is a soul, in terms of space-points, kṛtayugma—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! With reference to the space-points of the soul, it is kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja. With reference to the space-points of the body, it is sometimes kṛtayugma up to sometimes kalyoja. Likewise up to a vaimānika." > "Venerable Sir, is a liberated soul, in terms of space-points, kṛtayugma—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! It is kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja." > "Venerable Sir, are souls, in terms of space-points, kṛtayugma—" \[the query\]? > "Gautama! With reference to the space-points of the soul, both in general terms and in specific terms, they are kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja. With reference to the space-points of the body, in general terms they are sometimes kṛtayugma up to sometimes kalyoja; in specific terms, they are kṛtayugma up to kalyoja as well. Likewise also inhabitants of hell; likewise up to vaimānikas." > "Liberated souls, Venerable Sir—" \[the query\]. > "Gautama! Both in general terms and in specific terms, they are kṛtayugma, not tryoja, not dvāparayugma, not kalyoja." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.883](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.883) jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe–pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe jāva siya kaliyogapadesogāḍhe| evaṃ jāva siddhe| jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, no dāvarajummapadesogāḍhā, no kaliyogapadesogāḍhā; vihā-ṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā vi jāva kaliyogapadesogāḍhā vi| neraiyāṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā jāva siya kaliyogapadesogāḍhā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā vi jāva kaliyogapadesogāḍhā vi| evaṃ egiṃdiya-siddhavajjā savve vi| siddhā egiṃdiyā ya jahā jīvā| jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīe–pucchā| goyamā! kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīe, no teyogasamayaṭṭhitīe, no dāvarajummasamayaṭṭhitīe, no kaliyoga-samayaṭṭhitīe| neraie ṇaṃ bhaṃte! –pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīe jāva siya kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīe| evaṃ jāva vemāṇie| siddhe jahā jīve| jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! –pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇa vi vihāṇādeseṇa vi kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīyā, no teyogasamayaṭṭhitīyā, no dāvarajummasamayaṭṭhitīyā, no kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīyā| neraiyāṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇa siya kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīyā jāva siya kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīyā vi; vihāṇā-deseṇaṃ kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīyā vi jāva kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīyā vi| evaṃ jāva vemāṇiyā| siddhā jahā jīvā| jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kālāvaṇṇapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! jīvapadese paḍucca no kaḍajumme jāva no kaliyoge| sarīrapadese paḍucca siya kaḍajumme jāva siya kaliyoge| evaṃ jāva vemāṇie| siddho ṇaṃ ceva pucchijjaṃti| > "Venerable Sir, is a jīva pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma?" \[Gautama asks the full\] question. > "Gautama, sometimes it is pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma, up to sometimes pervaded by space points that are kaliyoga. In this way up to the liberated soul. > 'Venerable Sir, are jīvas pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma?'—\[Gautama asks the full\] question. > 'Gautama, in terms of general classification they are pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma, not pervaded by space points that are treyoga, not pervaded by space points that are dvāparayugma, not pervaded by space points that are kaliyoga; in terms of particular classification they are pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma, up to pervaded by space points that are kaliyoga as well.' > Concerning the inhabitants of hell—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, in terms of general classification they are sometimes pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma, up to sometimes pervaded by space points that are kaliyoga; in terms of particular classification they are pervaded by space points that are kṛtayugma as well, up to pervaded by space points that are kaliyoga as well. In this way all \[beings\], except one-sensed beings and liberated souls. Liberated souls and one-sensed beings are \[to be stated\] just like jīvas.' > 'Venerable Sir, does a jīva have a lifespan duration of samayas that is kṛtayugma?'—\[Gautama asks the full\] question. > 'Gautama, it has a lifespan duration of samayas that is kṛtayugma, not a lifespan duration of samayas that is treyoga, not a lifespan duration of samayas that is dvāparayugma, not a lifespan duration of samayas that is kaliyoga.' > 'Venerable Sir, an inhabitant of hell?'—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, sometimes it has a lifespan duration of samayas that is kṛtayugma, up to sometimes it has a lifespan duration of samayas that is kaliyoga. In this way up to the vaimānika. The liberated soul is just like the jīva.' > 'Venerable Sir, jīvas?'—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, both in terms of general classification and in terms of particular classification they have a lifespan duration of samayas that is kṛtayugma, not a lifespan duration of samayas that is treyoga, not a lifespan duration of samayas that is dvāparayugma, not a lifespan duration of samayas that is kaliyoga.' > Concerning the inhabitants of hell—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, in terms of general classification they have sometimes a lifespan duration of samayas that is kṛtayugma, up to sometimes a lifespan duration of samayas that is kaliyoga; in terms of particular classification they have a lifespan duration of samayas that is kṛtayugma as well, up to a lifespan duration of samayas that is kaliyoga as well. In this way up to the vaimānikas. Liberated souls are just like jīvas.' > 'Venerable Sir, in terms of black-color modes, is a jīva kṛtayugma?'—\[Gautama asks the full\] question. > 'Gautama, with respect to jīva space points, it is not kṛtayugma, up to not kaliyoga. With respect to body space points, it is sometimes kṛtayugma, up to sometimes kaliyoga. In this way up to the vaimānika. Liberated souls are not to be questioned \[about this\].' > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.884](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.884) jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kālāvaṇṇapajjavehiṃ–pucchā| goyamā! jīvapadese paḍucca oghādeseṇa vi vihāṇādeseṇa vi no kaḍajummā jāva no kaliyogā| sarīrapadese paḍucca oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummā vi jāva kaliyogā vi| evaṃ jāva vemāṇiyā| evaṃ nīlāvaṇṇapajjavehiṃ daṃḍao bhāṇiyavvo egattapuhatteṇaṃ| evaṃ jāva lukkhaphāsapajjavehiṃ| jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ābhinibohiyanāṇapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajumme jāva siya kaliyoge| evaṃ egiṃdiyavajjaṃ jāva vemāṇie| jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ābhinibohiyanāṇapajjavehiṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā, vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummā vi jāva kaliyogā vi| evaṃ egiṃdiyavajjaṃ jāva vemāṇiyā| evaṃ suyanāṇapajjavehiṃ vi| ohināṇapajjavehiṃ vi evaṃ ceva, navaraṃ–vigaliṃdiyāṇaṃ natthi ohināṇaṃ| manapajjavanāṇaṃ pi evaṃ ceva, navaraṃ–jīvāṇaṃ manussāṇa ya, sesāṇaṃ natthi| jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kevalanāṇapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, no kaliyoge| evaṃ manusse vi| evaṃ siddhe vi| jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kevalanāṇapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajummā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇa vi vihāṇādeseṇa vi kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā| evaṃ manussā vi| evaṃ siddhā vi| jīve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! maiannāṇapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajumme? jahā ābhinibohiyanāṇapajjavehiṃ taheva do daṃḍagā| evaṃ suyaannāṇapajjavehi vi| evaṃ vibhaṃganāṇapajjavehi vi| cakkhudaṃsaṇa-acakkhudaṃsaṇa-ohidaṃsaṇapajjavehi vi evaṃ ceva, navaraṃ–jassa jaṃ atthi taṃ bhāṇiyavvaṃ| kevaladaṃsaṇapajjavehiṃ jahā kevalanāṇapajjavehiṃ| > "'Venerable Sir, in terms of black-color modes, are jīvas?'—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, with respect to jīva space points, both in terms of general classification and in terms of particular classification they are not kṛtayugma, up to not kaliyoga. With respect to body space points, in terms of general classification they are sometimes kṛtayugma, up to sometimes kaliyoga; in terms of particular classification they are kṛtayugma as well, up to kaliyoga as well. In this way up to the vaimānikas. In this way the set of twenty-four places is to be stated in terms of blue-color modes in the singular and plural; in this way up to rough-touch modes.' > 'Venerable Sir, in terms of modes of sensory knowledge, is a jīva kṛtayugma?'—\[Gautama asks the full\] question. > 'Gautama, it is sometimes kṛtayugma, up to sometimes kaliyoga. In this way, except one-sensed beings, up to the vaimānika.' > 'Venerable Sir, in terms of modes of sensory knowledge, are jīvas?'—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, in terms of general classification they are sometimes kṛtayugma, up to sometimes kaliyoga; in terms of particular classification they are kṛtayugma as well, up to kaliyoga as well. In this way, except one-sensed beings, up to the vaimānikas. In this way also with respect to modes of scriptural knowledge. With respect to modes of clairvoyant knowledge also it is just the same, with the only difference: beings with incomplete senses do not possess clairvoyant knowledge. Modes of telepathic knowledge also are just the same, with the only difference: \[only\] for jīvas and human beings, others do not have it.' > 'Venerable Sir, in terms of modes of omniscience, is a jīva kṛtayugma?'—\[Gautama asks the full\] question. > 'Gautama, it is kṛtayugma, not treyoga, not dvāparayugma, not kaliyoga. In this way human beings too. In this way liberated souls too.' > 'Venerable Sir, in terms of modes of omniscience, are jīvas kṛtayugma?'—\[Gautama asks the\] question. > 'Gautama, both in terms of general classification and in terms of particular classification they are kṛtayugma, not treyoga, not dvāparayugma, not kaliyoga. In this way human beings too. In this way liberated souls too.' > 'Venerable Sir, in terms of modes of sensory non-knowledge, is a jīva kṛtayugma?' Just as with modes of sensory knowledge, exactly so the two sets of twenty-four places \[are to be stated\]. In this way also with respect to modes of scriptural non-knowledge. In this way also with respect to modes of erroneous clairvoyant knowledge. In this way also with respect to modes of ocular intuition, non-ocular intuition, and clairvoyant intuition, with the only difference: whatever belongs to whomever, that should be stated. With respect to modes of omniscient intuition, \[it is\] just as with modes of omniscience." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.885](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.885) kati ṇaṃ bhaṃte! sarīragā pannattā? goyamā! paṃca sarīragā pannattā, taṃ jahā–orālie jāva kammae| ettha sarīragapadaṃ niravasesaṃ bhāṇiyavvaṃ jahā pannavaṇāe| > "How many bodies, Venerable Sir, have been taught?" > "Gautama, five bodies have been taught, namely: gross, up to karmic. Here the chapter on bodies is to be stated in its entirety, just as in the Prajñāpanā." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.886](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.886) jīvā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ seyā? nireyā? goyamā! jīvā seyā vi, nireyā vi| se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–jīvā seyā vi, nireyā vi? goyamā! jīvā duvihā pannattā, taṃ jahā–saṃsārasamāvannagā ya, asaṃsārasamāvannagā ya| tattha ṇaṃ je te asaṃsārasamāvannagā te ṇaṃ siddhā| siddhā ṇaṃ duvihā pannattā, taṃ jahā–anaṃtarasiddhā ya, paraṃparasiddhā ya| tattha ṇaṃ je te paraṃparasiddhā te ṇaṃ nireyā| tattha ṇaṃ je te anaṃtarasiddhā te ṇaṃ seyā| te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ deseyā? savveyā? goyamā! no deseyā, savveyā| tattha ṇaṃ je te saṃsārasamāvannagā te duvihā pannattā, taṃ jahā–selesipaḍivannagā ya, aselesi-paḍivannagā ya| tattha ṇaṃ je te selosipaḍivannagā te ṇaṃ nireyā, tattha ṇaṃ je te aselesīpaḍivannagā te ṇaṃ seyā| te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ deseyā? savveyā? goyamā! deseyā vi, savveyā vi| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai–jīvā seyā vi, nireyā vi| neraiyā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ deseyā? savveyā? goyamā! deseyā vi, savveyā vi| se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ jāva savveyā vi? goyamā! neraiyā duvihā pannattā, taṃ jahā–viggahagatisamāvannagā ya, aviggahagatisamāvannagā ya| tattha ṇaṃ je te viggahagatisamāvannagā te ṇaṃ savveyā, tattha ṇaṃ je te aviggahagatisamāvannagā te ṇaṃ deseyā| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ jāva savveyā vi| evaṃ jāva vemāṇiyā| > "'Venerable Sir, are jīvas in motion or motionless?' > 'Gautama, jīvas are both in motion and motionless.' > 'Why is it said, Venerable Sir, that jīvas are both in motion and motionless?' > 'Gautama, jīvas have been taught to be of two kinds, namely: those who are transmigrating and those who are not transmigrating. Among them, those who are not transmigrating are liberated souls. Liberated souls have been taught to be of two kinds, namely: the immediately liberated and the conventionally liberated. Among them, those who are conventionally liberated are motionless. Among them, those who are immediately liberated are in motion.' > 'Venerable Sir, are they moving in part or moving in whole?' > 'Gautama, they are not moving in part; they are moving in whole. Among them, those who are transmigrating have been taught to be of two kinds, namely: those who have attained the śaileśī state and those who have not attained the śaileśī state. Among them, those who have attained the śaileśī state are motionless; among them, those who have not attained the śaileśī state are in motion.' > 'Venerable Sir, are they moving in part or moving in whole?' > 'Gautama, they are moving in part as well as moving in whole. For that reason, Gautama, it is said that jīvas are both in motion and motionless.' > 'Venerable Sir, are the inhabitants of hell moving in part or moving in whole?' > 'Gautama, they are moving in part as well as moving in whole.' > 'Why is it said, up to moving in whole as well?' > 'Gautama, the inhabitants of hell have been taught to be of two kinds, namely: those undergoing motion with turns and those not undergoing motion with turns. Among them, those undergoing motion with turns are moving in whole; among them, those not undergoing motion with turns are moving in part. For that reason, up to moving in whole as well. In this way up to the vaimānikas.'" > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.887](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.887) paramāṇupoggalā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ saṃkhejjā? asaṃkhejjā? anaṃtā? goyamā! no saṃkhejjā, no asaṃkhejjā, anaṃtā| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesiyā khaṃdhā| egapadesogāḍhā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! poggalā kiṃ saṃkhejjā? asaṃkhejjā? anaṃtā? evaṃ ceva| evaṃ jāva asaṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā egasamayaṭṭhitīyā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! poggalā kiṃ saṃkhejjā? evaṃ ceva| evaṃ jāva asaṃkhejjasamayaṭṭhitīyā| egaguṇakālagā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! poggalā kiṃ saṃkhejjā? evaṃ ceva| evaṃ jāva anaṃtaguṇakālagā| evaṃ avasesā vi vaṇṇagaṃdharasaphāsā neyavvā jāva anaṃtaguṇalukkha tti| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! paramāṇupoggalāṇaṃ dupadesiyāṇa ya khaṃdhāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto bahuyā? goyamā! dupadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto paramāṇupoggalā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! dupadesiyāṇaṃ tipadesiyāṇaṃ ya khaṃdhāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto bahuyā? goyamā! tipadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto dupadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| evaṃ eeṇaṃ gamaeṇaṃ jāva dasapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto navapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! dasapadesiyāṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! dasapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto saṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! saṃkhejjapadesiyāṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! saṃkhejjapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! asaṃkhejjapadesiyāṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! anaṃtapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! paramāṇupoggalāṇaṃ dupadesiyāṇaṃ ya khaṃdhāṇaṃ padesaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto bahuyā? goyamā! paramāṇupoggalehiṃto dupadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| evaṃ eeṇaṃ gamaeṇaṃ jāva navapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto dasapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| evaṃ savvattha pucchiyavvaṃ| dasapadesi-ehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto saṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| saṃkhejjapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! asaṃkhejjapadesiyāṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! anaṃtapadesiehiṃto khaṃdhehiṃto asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egapadesogāḍhāṇaṃ dupadesogāḍhāṇa ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto visesāhiyā? goyamā! dupadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto egapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā| evaṃ eeṇaṃ gamaeṇaṃ tipadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto dupadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā jāva dasapadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto navapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā| dasapadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto asaṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| pucchā savvattha bhāṇiyavvā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egapadesogāḍhāṇaṃ dupadesogāḍhāṇaṃ ya poggalāṇaṃ padesaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto visesāhiyā? goyamā! egapadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto dupadesogāḍhā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā| evaṃ jāva navapadesogāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto dasapadesogāḍhā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā| dasapadesegāḍhehiṃto poggalehiṃto saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhe-hiṃto poggalehiṃto asaṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egasamayaṭṭhitīyāṇaṃ dusamayaṭṭhitīyāṇa ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe? jahā ogāhaṇāe vattavvayā evaṃ ṭhitīe vi| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egaguṇakālagāṇaṃ duguṇakālagāṇa ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe? eesi ṇaṃ jahā paramāṇupoggalādīṇaṃ taheva vattavvayā niravasesā| evaṃ savvesiṃ vaṇṇa-gaṃdha-rasāṇaṃ| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egaguṇakakkhaḍāṇaṃ duguṇakakkhaḍāṇa ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto visesāhiyā? goyamā! egaguṇakakkhaḍehiṃto poggalehiṃto duguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā| evaṃ jāva navaguṇakakkhaḍehiṃto poggalehiṃto dasaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe visesāhiyā| dasaguṇakakkhaḍehiṃto poggalehiṃto saṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| saṃkhejjaguṇa-kakkhaḍehiṃto poggalehiṃto asaṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davva ṭṭhayāe bahuyā| asaṃkhejjaguṇa- kakkhaḍehiṃto poggalehiṃto anaṃtaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe bahuyā| evaṃ padesaṭṭhayāe vi| savvattha pucchā bhāṇiyavvā| jahā kakkhaḍā evaṃ mauya-garuya-lahuyā vi| sīya-usiṇa-niddha-lukkhā jahā vaṇṇā| > "Venerable Sir! Are atomic pudgalas numerable, innumerable, or infinite?" > "Gautama! They are not numerable, nor innumerable; they are infinite. In this manner up to infinite-space-point aggregates. > "Venerable Sir! Are pudgalas occupying one space-point numerable, innumerable, or infinite?" > "In the very same manner. In this manner up to \[pudgalas\] occupying innumerable space-points. > "Venerable Sir! Are pudgalas of one-instant duration numerable...?" > "In the very same manner. In this manner up to \[pudgalas\] of innumerable-instant duration. > "Venerable Sir! Are pudgalas of one degree of blackness numerable...?" > "In the very same manner. In this manner up to \[pudgalas\] of infinite degrees of blackness. In this manner, the remaining colours, odours, tastes, and touches are also to be understood, up to \[pudgalas\] of infinite degrees of dryness. > "Between these atomic pudgalas, Venerable Sir, and two-space-point aggregates, which are more in terms of substance?" > "Gautama! Atomic pudgalas are more in terms of substance than two-space-point aggregates." > "Between these two-space-point aggregates, Venerable Sir, and three-space-point aggregates, which are more in terms of substance?" > "Gautama! Two-space-point aggregates are more in terms of substance than three-space-point aggregates. In this way, by this method, up to: nine-space-point aggregates are more in terms of substance than ten-space-point aggregates. > "Between these ten-space-point aggregates, Venerable Sir—\[the same\] question." > "Gautama! Numerable-space-point aggregates are more in terms of substance than ten-space-point aggregates." > "Between these numerable-space-point aggregates, Venerable Sir—\[the same\] question." > "Gautama! Innumerable-space-point aggregates are more in terms of substance than numerable-space-point aggregates." > "Between these innumerable-space-point aggregates, Venerable Sir—\[the same\] question." > "Gautama! Innumerable-space-point aggregates are more in terms of substance than infinite-space-point aggregates." > "Between these atomic pudgalas, Venerable Sir, and two-space-point aggregates, which are more in terms of space-points?" > "Gautama! Two-space-point aggregates are more in terms of space-points than atomic pudgalas. In this way, by this method, up to: ten-space-point aggregates are more in terms of space-points than nine-space-point aggregates. Thus the question is to be asked everywhere. Numerable-space-point aggregates are more in terms of space-points than ten-space-point aggregates. Innumerable-space-point aggregates are more in terms of space-points than numerable-space-point aggregates. > "Between these innumerable-space-point aggregates, Venerable Sir—\[the same\] question." > "Gautama! Innumerable-space-point aggregates are more in terms of space-points than infinite-space-point aggregates." > "Between these pudgalas occupying one space-point, Venerable Sir, and \[those\] occupying two space-points, which are specifically greater in terms of substance?" > "Gautama! Pudgalas occupying one space-point are specifically greater in terms of substance than pudgalas occupying two space-points. In this way, by this method, pudgalas occupying two space-points are specifically greater in terms of substance than pudgalas occupying three space-points, up to: pudgalas occupying nine space-points are specifically greater in terms of substance than pudgalas occupying ten space-points. Pudgalas occupying numerable space-points are more in terms of substance than pudgalas occupying ten space-points. Pudgalas occupying innumerable space-points are more in terms of substance than pudgalas occupying numerable space-points. The question is to be stated everywhere. > "Between these pudgalas occupying one space-point, Venerable Sir, and \[those\] occupying two space-points, which are specifically greater in terms of space-points?" > "Gautama! Pudgalas occupying two space-points are specifically greater in terms of space-points than pudgalas occupying one space-point. In this manner up to: pudgalas occupying ten space-points are specifically greater in terms of space-points than pudgalas occupying nine space-points. Pudgalas occupying numerable space-points are more in terms of space-points than pudgalas occupying ten space-points. Pudgalas occupying innumerable space-points are more in terms of space-points than pudgalas occupying numerable space-points." > "Between these pudgalas of one-instant duration, Venerable Sir, and \[those\] of two-instant duration, in terms of substance...?" > "As is the statement regarding occupation, so also regarding duration." > "Between these pudgalas of one degree of blackness, Venerable Sir, and \[those\] of two degrees of blackness, in terms of substance...?" > "Concerning these, the exposition is entirely the same as for atomic pudgalas and the rest. The same for all colours, odours, and tastes. > "Between these pudgalas of one degree of roughness, Venerable Sir, and \[those\] of two degrees of roughness, which are specifically greater in terms of substance?" > "Gautama! Pudgalas of two degrees of roughness are specifically greater in terms of substance than pudgalas of one degree of roughness. In this manner up to: pudgalas of ten degrees of roughness are specifically greater in terms of substance than pudgalas of nine degrees of roughness. Pudgalas of numerable degrees of roughness are more in terms of substance than pudgalas of ten degrees of roughness. Pudgalas of innumerable degrees of roughness are more in terms of substance than pudgalas of numerable degrees of roughness. Pudgalas of infinite degrees of roughness are more in terms of substance than pudgalas of innumerable degrees of roughness. The same also in terms of space-points. Everywhere the question is to be stated. As roughness, so also soft, heavy, and light. Cold, hot, smooth, and dry are as colors." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.888](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.888) eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! paramāṇupoggalāṇaṃ, saṃkhejjapadesiyāṇaṃ, asaṃkhejjapadesiyāṇaṃ, anaṃtapadesiyāṇaṃ ya khaṃdhāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe, padesaṭṭhayāe, davvaṭṭha-padesaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto appā vā? bahuyā vā? tullā vā? visesāhiyā vā? goyamā! savvatthovā anaṃtapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe, paramāṇupoggalā davvaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā, saṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejja-guṇā| padesaṭṭhayāe–savvatthovā anaṃtapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe, paramāṇupoggalā apadesaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā, saṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā padesaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| davvaṭṭhapadesaṭṭhayāe–savvatthovā anaṃtapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā, paramāṇupoggalā davvaṭṭhapadesaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā, saṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, asaṃkhejjapadesiyā khaṃdhā davvaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejja-guṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egapadesogāḍhāṇaṃ, saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhāṇaṃ, asaṃkhejjapadesogāḍhāṇaṃ ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe, padesaṭṭhayāe, davvaṭṭhapadesaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto appā vā? bahuyā vā? tullā vā? visesāhiyā vā? goyamā! savvatthovā egapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe, saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, asaṃkhejjapade-sogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| padesaṭṭhayāe–savvatthovā egapadesogāḍhā poggalā apadesaṭṭhayāe, saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, asaṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| davvaṭṭha-padesaṭṭhayāe–savvatthovā egapa-desogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhaapadesaṭṭhayāe, saṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā| asaṃkhejjapadesogāḍhā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egasamayaṭṭhitīyāṇaṃ, saṃkhejjasamayaṭṭhitīyāṇaṃ, asaṃkhejjasamayaṭṭhitīyāṇa ya poggalāṇa? jahā ogāhaṇāe tahā ṭhitīe vi bhāṇiyavvaṃ appābahugaṃ| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egaguṇakālagāṇaṃ, saṃkhejjaguṇakālagāṇaṃ, asaṃkhejjaguṇakālagāṇaṃ, anaṃtaguṇa-kālagāṇaṃ ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe, padesaṭṭhayāe, davvaṭṭha-padesaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto appā vā? bahuyā vā? tullā vā? visesāhiyā vā? eesiṃ jahā paramāṇupoggalāṇaṃ appābahugaṃ tahā eesiṃ pi appābahugaṃ| evaṃ sesāṇa vi vaṇṇa-gaṃdha-rasāṇaṃ| eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! egaguṇakakkhaḍāṇaṃ, saṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍāṇaṃ, asaṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍāṇaṃ, anaṃtaguṇa-kakkhaḍāṇaṃ ya poggalāṇaṃ davvaṭṭhayāe, padesaṭṭhayāe, davvaṭṭhapadesaṭṭhayāe kayare kayarehiṃto appā vā? bahuyā vā? tullā vā? visesāhiyā vā? goyamā! savvatthovā egaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe, saṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, asaṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā, anaṃtaguṇa-kakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā| padesaṭṭhayāe evaṃ ceva, navaraṃ–saṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā padesaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| sesaṃ taṃ ceva| davvaṭṭha-padesaṭṭhayāe–savvatthovā egaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭha-padesaṭṭhayāe| saṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe saṃkhejjaguṇā| asaṃkhejjaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe asaṃkhejjaguṇā| anaṃtaguṇakakkhaḍā poggalā davvaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā, te ceva padesaṭṭhayāe anaṃtaguṇā| evaṃ mauya-garuya-lahuyāṇa vi appābahuyaṃ| sīya-usiṇa-niddha-lukkhāṇaṃ tahā vaṇṇāṇaṃ taheva| > "Venerable Sir! Among these atom-pudgalas, numerable-space-point aggregates, innumerable-space-point aggregates, and infinite-space-point aggregates, in terms of substance, in terms of space-points, and in terms of substance and space-points, which are fewer, more, equal, or specifically greater than which?" > "Gautama! The fewest are the infinite-space-point aggregates in terms of substance; atom-pudgalas are infinitely more in terms of substance; numerable-space-point aggregates are numerably more in terms of substance; innumerable-space-point aggregates are innumerably more in terms of substance. In terms of space-points: the fewest are infinite-space-point aggregates in terms of space-points; atom-pudgalas are infinitely more in terms of having no space-points \[beyond one\]; numerable-space-point aggregates are numerably more in terms of space-points; innumerable-space-point aggregates are innumerably more in terms of space-points. In terms of substance and space-points: the fewest are infinite-space-point aggregates in terms of substance; those very ones are infinitely more in terms of space-points; atom-pudgalas are infinitely more in terms of substance and space-points; numerable-space-point aggregates are numerably more in terms of substance; those very ones are numerably more in terms of space-points; innumerable-space-point aggregates are innumerably more in terms of substance; those very ones are innumerably more in terms of space-points. > > "Venerable Sir! Among these pudgalas occupying one space-point, occupying numerable space-points, and occupying innumerable space-points, in terms of substance, in terms of space-points, and in terms of substance and space-points, which are fewer, more, equal, or specifically greater than which?" > "Gautama! The fewest are pudgalas occupying one space-point in terms of substance; pudgalas occupying numerable space-points are numerably more in terms of substance; pudgalas occupying innumerable space-points are innumerably more in terms of substance. In terms of space-points: the fewest are pudgalas occupying one space-point in terms of having no \[multiple\] space-points; pudgalas occupying numerable space-points are numerably more in terms of space-points; pudgalas occupying innumerable space-points are innumerably more in terms of space-points. In terms of substance and space-points: the fewest are pudgalas occupying one space-point in terms of substance and having no \[multiple\] space-points; pudgalas occupying numerable space-points are numerably more in terms of substance; those very ones are numerably more in terms of space-points; pudgalas occupying innumerable space-points are innumerably more in terms of substance; those very ones are innumerably more in terms of space-points. > > "Venerable Sir! Among these pudgalas with a lifespan duration of one samaya, with a lifespan duration of numerable samayas, and with a lifespan duration of innumerable samayas?" > Just as with space-occupancy, so also the relative quantity must be stated for lifespan duration. > > "Venerable Sir! Among these pudgalas of one degree of blackness, of numerable degrees of blackness, of innumerable degrees of blackness, and of infinite degrees of blackness, in terms of substance, in terms of space-points, and in terms of substance and space-points, which are fewer, more, equal, or specifically greater than which?" > Their relative quantity is just like the relative quantity of atom-pudgalas; so too is the relative quantity of these. The same applies to the remaining colors, smells, and tastes. > > "Venerable Sir! Among these pudgalas of one degree of roughness, of numerable degrees of roughness, of innumerable degrees of roughness, and of infinite degrees of roughness, in terms of substance, in terms of space-points, and in terms of substance and space-points, which are fewer, more, equal, or specifically greater than which?" > "Gautama! The fewest are pudgalas of one degree of roughness in terms of substance; pudgalas of numerable degrees of roughness are numerably more in terms of substance; pudgalas of innumerable degrees of roughness are innumerably more in terms of substance; pudgalas of infinite degrees of roughness are infinitely more in terms of substance. In terms of space-points it is just the same, with the only difference being: pudgalas of numerable degrees of roughness are innumerably more in terms of space-points; the rest is just the same. In terms of substance and space-points: the fewest are pudgalas of one degree of roughness in terms of substance and space-points; pudgalas of numerable degrees of roughness are numerably more in terms of substance; those very ones are numerably more in terms of space-points; pudgalas of innumerable degrees of roughness are innumerably more in terms of substance; those very ones are innumerably more in terms of space-points; pudgalas of infinite degrees of roughness are infinitely more in terms of substance; those very ones are infinitely more in terms of space-points. > So too is the relative quantity of smooth, heavy, and light. For cold, hot, unctuous, and dry, it is just like for the colors." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) ### [25.4.889](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.25.4.889) paramāṇupoggale ṇaṃ bhaṃte! davvaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajumme? teyoe? dāvarajumme? kaliyoge? goyamā! no kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, kaliyoge| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesie khaṃdhe| paramāṇupoggalā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! davvaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajummā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, kaliyogā| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesiyā khaṃdhā| paramāṇupoggale ṇaṃ bhaṃte! padesaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, kaliyoge| dupadesiya–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajumme, no teyoge, dāvarajumme, no kaliyoge| tipadesie–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajumme, teyoge, no dāvarajumme, no kaliyoge| cauppadesie–pucchā| goyamā! kaḍajumme, no teyoge, no dāvarajumme, no kaliyoge| paṃcapadesie jahā paramāṇupoggale| chappadesie jahā duppaesie| sattapadesie jahā tipadesie| aṭṭhapadesie jahā cauppadesie| navapadesie jahā paramāṇupoggale| dasapadesie jahā duppaesie| saṃkhejjapadesie ṇaṃ bhaṃte! poggale–pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajumme jāva siya kaliyoge| evaṃ asaṃkhejjapadesie vi, anaṃtapadesie vi| paramāṇupoggalā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! padesaṭṭhayāe kiṃ kaḍajummā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, kaliyogā| duppadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā, no teyogā, siya dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā; vihāṇā-deseṇaṃ no kaḍajummā, no teyogā dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā| tipadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummā, teyogā, no dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā| cauppadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇa vi vihāṇādeseṇa vi kaḍajummā, no teyogā, no dāvarajummā, no kaliyogā| paṃcapadesiyā jahā paramāṇu poggalā| chappadesiyā jahā duppadesiyā| sattapadesiyā jahā tipadesiyā| aṭṭhapadesiyā jahā caupadesiyā| navapadesiyā jahā paramāṇupoggalā| dasapadesiyā jahā dupadesiyā| saṃkhejjapadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummā vi jāva kaliyogā vi| evaṃ asaṃkhe-jjapadesiyā vi, anaṃtapadesiyā vi| paramāṇupoggale ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe, no teyogapadesogāḍhe, no dāvarajummapadesogāḍhe, kaliyoga-padesogāḍhe| dupadesie ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe, no teyogapadesogāḍhe, siya dāvarajummapadesogāḍhe, siya kaliyoga-padesogāḍhe| tipadesie ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! no kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe, siya teyogapadesogāḍhe, siya dāvarajummapadesogāḍhe, siya kaliyogapadesogāḍhe| cauppadesie ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajummapadesogāḍhe jāva siya kaliyogapadesogāḍhe| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesie| paramāṇupoggalā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, no dāvarajummapadesogāḍhā, no kaliyogapadesogāḍhā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, no dāvarajumma-padesogāḍhā, kaliyogapadesogāḍhā| duppadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, no dāvarajummapadesogāḍhā, no kaliyogapadesogāḍhā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, dāvarajumma-padesogāḍhā vi, kaliyogapadesogāḍhā vi| tippadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, no dāvarajummapadesogāḍhā, no kaliyogapadesogāḍhā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ no kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, teyogapadesogāḍhā vi, dāvarajumma-padesogāḍhā vi, kaliyogapadesogāḍhā vi| cauppadesiyā ṇaṃ–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā, no teyogapadesogāḍhā, no dāvarajummapadesogāḍhā, no kaliyogapadesogāḍhā; vihā-ṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummapadesogāḍhā vi jāva kaliyogapadesogāḍhā vi| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesiyā| paramāṇupoggale ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīe–pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīe jāva siya kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīe| evaṃ jāva anaṃta-padesie| paramāṇupoggalā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ kaḍajumma–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīyā jāva siya kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīyā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummasamayaṭṭhitīyā vi jāva kaliyogasamayaṭṭhitīyā vi| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesiyā| paramāṇupoggale ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kālāvaṇṇapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajumme? teyoge? jahā ṭhitīe vattavvayā evaṃ vaṇṇesu vi savvesu| gaṃdhesu vi evaṃ ceva| rasesu vi jāva mahuro raso tti| anaṃtapadesie ṇaṃ bhaṃte! khaṃdhe kakkhaḍaphāsapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajumme–pucchā| goyamā! siya kaḍajumme jāva siya kaliyoge| anaṃtapadesiyā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! khaṃdhā kakkhaḍaphāsapajjavehiṃ kiṃ kaḍajummā–pucchā| goyamā! oghādeseṇaṃ siya kaḍajummā jāva siya kaliyogā; vihāṇādeseṇaṃ kaḍajummā vi jāva kaliyogā vi| evaṃ mauya-garuya-lahuyā vi bhāṇiyavvā| sīya-usiṇa-siddha-lukkhā jahā vaṇṇā| > "Venerable Sir! In terms of substance, is an indivisible atom (paramāṇu-pudgala) a kṛtayugma, a treyojā, a dvāparayugma, or a kaliyoga?" > "Gautama! It is not a kṛtayugma, not a treyojā, not a dvāparayugma; it is a kaliyoga. In this way up to an aggregate composed of infinite space-points (pradeśas). > "Venerable Sir! In terms of substance, are indivisible atoms kṛtayugma—\[the same\] question?" > "Gautama! By general designation (oghādeśa), sometimes they are kṛtayugma up to sometimes kaliyoga. By particular designation (vibhāgādeśa), they are not kṛtayugma, not treyojā, not dvāparayugma; they are kaliyoga. In this way up to aggregates composed of infinite space-points. > "Venerable Sir! In terms of space-points, is an indivisible atom a kṛtayugma—question?" > "Gautama! It is not a kṛtayugma, not a treyojā, not a dvāparayugma; it is a kaliyoga. > Concerning a two-space-point \[aggregate\]—question. > "Gautama! It is not a kṛtayugma, not a treyojā; it is a dvāparayugma, not a kaliyoga. > Concerning a three-space-point \[aggregate\]—question. > "Gautama! It is not a kṛtayugma; it is a treyojā, not a dvāparayugma, not a kaliyoga. > Concerning a four-space-point \[aggregate\]—question. > "Gautama! It is a kṛtayugma, not a treyojā, not a dvāparayugma, not a kaliyoga. A five-space-point \[aggregate\] is like an indivisible atom. A six-space-point \[aggregate\] is like a two-space-point one. A seven-space-point \[aggregate\] is like a three-space-point one. An eight-space-point \[aggregate\] is like a four-space-point one. A nine-space-point \[aggregate\] is like an indivisible atom. A ten-space-point \[aggregate\] is like a two-space-point one. > "Venerable Sir! Concerning an aggregate of numerable space-points—question." > "Gautama! Sometimes it is a kṛtayugma up to sometimes a kaliyoga. In this way also an aggregate of innumerable space-points and an aggregate of infinite space-points. > "Venerable Sir! In terms of space-points, are indivisible atoms kṛtayugma—question?" > "Gautama! By general designation, sometimes they are kṛtayugma up to sometimes kaliyoga. By particular designation, they are not kṛtayugma, not treyojā, not dvāparayugma; they are kaliyoga. > Concerning two-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! By general designation, sometimes they are kṛtayugma, not treyojā, sometimes dvāparayugma, not kaliyoga. By particular designation, they are not kṛtayugma, not treyojā; they are dvāparayugma, not kaliyoga. > Concerning three-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! By general designation, sometimes they are kṛtayugma up to sometimes kaliyoga. By particular designation, they are not kṛtayugma; they are treyojā, not dvāparayugma, not kaliyoga. > Concerning four-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! Both by general designation and by particular designation, they are kṛtayugma, not treyojā, not dvāparayugma, not kaliyoga. Five-space-point \[aggregates\] are like indivisible atoms. Six-space-point \[aggregates\] are like two-space-point ones. Seven-space-point \[aggregates\] are like three-space-point ones. Eight-space-point \[aggregates\] are like four-space-point ones. Nine-space-point \[aggregates\] are like indivisible atoms. Ten-space-point \[aggregates\] are like two-space-point ones. > Concerning numerable-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! By general designation, sometimes they are kṛtayugma up to sometimes kaliyoga. By particular designation, they are also kṛtayugma up to also kaliyoga. In this way also innumerable-space-point \[aggregates\] and infinite-space-point \[aggregates\]. > "Venerable Sir! Has an indivisible atom occupied kṛtayugma space-points—question?" > "Gautama! It has not occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points, not occupied dvāparayugma space-points; it has occupied kaliyoga space-points. > Concerning a two-space-point \[aggregate\]—question. > "Gautama! It has not occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points; sometimes it has occupied dvāparayugma space-points, sometimes it has occupied kaliyoga space-points. > Concerning a three-space-point \[aggregate\]—question. > "Gautama! It has not occupied kṛtayugma space-points; sometimes it has occupied treyojā space-points, sometimes it has occupied dvāparayugma space-points, sometimes it has occupied kaliyoga space-points. > Concerning a four-space-point \[aggregate\]—question. > "Gautama! Sometimes it has occupied kṛtayugma space-points up to sometimes it has occupied kaliyoga space-points. In this way up to an aggregate of infinite space-points. > "Venerable Sir! Have indivisible atoms occupied kṛtayugma space-points—question?" > "Gautama! By general designation, they have occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points, not occupied dvāparayugma space-points, not occupied kaliyoga space-points. By particular designation, they have not occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points, not occupied dvāparayugma space-points; they have occupied kaliyoga space-points. > Concerning two-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! By general designation, they have occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points, not occupied dvāparayugma space-points, not occupied kaliyoga space-points. By particular designation, they have not occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points; they have also occupied dvāparayugma space-points, and also occupied kaliyoga space-points. > Concerning three-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! By general designation, they have occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points, not occupied dvāparayugma space-points, not occupied kaliyoga space-points. By particular designation, they have not occupied kṛtayugma space-points; they have also occupied treyojā space-points, also occupied dvāparayugma space-points, and also occupied kaliyoga space-points. > Concerning four-space-point \[aggregates\]—question. > "Gautama! By general designation, they have occupied kṛtayugma space-points, not occupied treyojā space-points, not occupied dvāparayugma space-points, not occupied kaliyoga space-points. By particular designation, they have occupied kṛtayugma space-points up to also occupied kaliyoga space-points. In this way up to aggregates of infinite space-points. > "Venerable Sir! Has an indivisible atom a duration of kṛtayugma time-instants (samayas)—question?" > "Gautama! Sometimes it has a duration of kṛtayugma time-instants up to sometimes it has a duration of kaliyoga time-instants. In this way up to an aggregate of infinite space-points. > "Venerable Sir! Do indivisible atoms—question?" > "Gautama! By general designation, sometimes they have a duration of kṛtayugma time-instants up to sometimes a duration of kaliyoga time-instants. By particular designation, they also have a duration of kṛtayugma time-instants up to also a duration of kaliyoga time-instants. In this way up to aggregates of infinite space-points. > "Venerable Sir! In terms of black colour-modes, is an indivisible atom a kṛtayugma or a treyojā? As with duration, the statement \[is made\] likewise for all colours. Likewise also for odours. Also for tastes, up to sweet taste. > "Venerable Sir! In terms of rough touch-modes, is an aggregate of infinite space-points a kṛtayugma—question?" > "Gautama! Sometimes it is a kṛtayugma up to sometimes a kaliyoga. > "Venerable Sir! In terms of rough touch-modes, are aggregates of infinite space-points kṛtayugma—question?" > "Gautama! By general designation, sometimes they are kṛtayugma up to sometimes kaliyoga. By particular designation, they are also kṛtayugma up to also kaliyoga. In this way smooth, heavy, and light \[touch-modes\] are also to be stated. Cold, hot, unctuous, and dry are \[to be stated\] just like colours." > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) _First 9 of 13 passages. 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