[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Indian literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in) › [Jain Literature](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina) › [The Śvetāmbara canon (Siddhānta)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta) › [The twelve Aṅgas ("limbs")](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga) › [Viyahapannatti](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5) › 3.2.175 # Viyahapannatti 3.2.175 Viyāhapannatti 3.2.175 - **Language:** Ardhamāgadhī Prakrit ### [3.2.175](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.3.2.175) bhaṃteti! bhagavaṃ goyame samaṇaṃ bhagavaṃ mahāvīraṃ vaṃdai, namaṃsai, vaṃdittā namaṃsittā evaṃ vadāsī–deve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! mahiḍḍhīe jāva mahānubhāge puvvāmeva poggalaṃ khivittā pabhū tamevaṃ anupariyaṭṭittā ṇaṃ geṇhittae? haṃtā pabhū| se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–deve ṇaṃ mahiḍḍhīe jāva mahānubhāge puvvāmeva poggalaṃ khivittā pabhū tameva anupariyaṭṭittā ṇaṃ geṇhittae? goyamā! poggale ṇaṃ khitte samāṇe puvvāmeva sigghagaī bhavittā tato pacchā maṃdagatī bhavati, deve ṇaṃ mahiḍḍhīe jāva mahānubhāge puvviṃ pi pacchā vi sīhe sīhagatī ceva turie turiyagatī ceva| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ jāva pabhū geṇhittae| jai ṇaṃ bhaṃte! deve mahiḍḍhīe jāva pabhū tameva anupariyaṭṭittā ṇaṃ geṇhittae, kamhā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! sakkeṇaṃ deviṃdeṇaṃ devaraṇṇā camare asuriṃde asurarāyā no saṃcāie sāhitthaṃ geṇhittae? goyamā! asurakumārāṇaṃ devāṇaṃ ahe gaivisae sīhe-sīhe ceva turie-turie ceva, uḍḍhaṃ gaivisae appe-appe ceva maṃde-maṃde ceva| vemāṇiyāṇaṃ devāṇaṃ uḍḍhaṃ gaivisae sīhe-sīhe ceva| turie-turie ceva, ahe gaivisae appe-appe ceva maṃde-maṃde ceva| jāvatiyaṃ khettaṃ sakke deviṃde devarāyā uḍḍhaṃ uppayai ekkeṇaṃ samaeṇaṃ, taṃ vajje dohiṃ, jaṃ vajje dohiṃ, taṃ camare tihiṃ| savvatthove sakkassa deviṃdassa devaranno uḍḍhaloyakaṃḍae, aheloyakaṃḍae saṃkhejjaguṇe jāvatiyaṃ khettaṃ camare asuriṃde asurarāyā ahe ovayai ekkeṇaṃ samaeṇaṃ, taṃ sakke dohiṃ, jaṃ sakke dohiṃ, taṃ vajje tīhiṃ| savvatthove camarassa asuriṃdassa asuraranno aheloyakaṃḍae, uḍḍhaloyakaṃḍae saṃkhejjaguṇe| evaṃ khalu goyamā! sakkeṇaṃ deviṃdeṇaṃ devaraṇṇā camare asuriṃde asurarāyā no saṃcāie sāhatthiṃ geṇhittae| sakkassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! deviṃdassa devaranno uḍḍhaṃ ahe tiriyaṃ ca gaivisayassa kayare kayarehiṃto appe vā? bahue vā? tulle vā? visesāhie vā? goyamā! savvatthovaṃ khettaṃ sakke deviṃde devarāyā ahe ovayai ekkeṇaṃ samaeṇaṃ tiriyaṃ saṃkhejje bhāge gacchai, uḍḍhaṃ saṃkhejje bhāge gacchai| camarassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! asuriṃdassa asuraranno uḍḍhaṃ ahe tiriyaṃ ca gaivisayassa kayare kayarehiṃto appe vā? bahue vā? tulle vā? visesāhie vā? goyamā! savvatthovaṃ khettaṃ camare asuriṃde asurarāyā uḍḍhaṃ uppayai ekkeṇaṃ samaeṇaṃ, tiriyaṃ saṃkhejje bhāge gacchai, ahe saṃkhejje bhāge gacchai| vajjassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! uḍḍhaṃ ahe tiriyaṃ ca gaivisayassa kayare kayarehiṃto appe vā? bahue vā? tulle vā? visesāhie vā? goyamā! savvatthovaṃ khettaṃ vajje ahe ovayai ekkeṇaṃ samaeṇaṃ, tiriyaṃ visesāhie bhāge gacchai, uḍḍhaṃ visesāhie bhāge gacchai| sakkassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! deviṃdassa devaranno ovayaṇakālassa ya, uppayaṇakālassa ya kayare kayarehiṃto appe vā? bahue vā? tulle vā? visesāhie vā? goyamā! savvatthove sakkassa deviṃdassa devaranno uppayaṇakāle, ovayaṇakāle saṃkhejjaguṇe| camarassa vi jahā sakkassa, navaraṃ–savvatthove ovayaṇakāle, uppayaṇakāle saṃkhejjaguṇe| vajjassa pucchā| goyamā! savvatthove uppayaṇakāle, ovayaṇakāle visesāhie| eyassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! vajjassa, vajjāhivaissa, camarassa ya asuriṃdassa asuraranno ovayaṇa-kālassa ya, uppayaṇakālassa ya kayare kayarehiṃto appe vā? bahue vā? tulle vā? visesāhie vā? goyamā! sakkassa ya uppayaṇakāle, camarassa ya ovayaṇakāle– ee ṇaṃ donnivi tullā savva-tthovā| sakkassa ya ovayaṇakāle vajjassa ya uppayaṇakāle–esa ṇaṃ doṇha vi tulle saṃkhejjaguṇe| camarassa ya uppayaṇakāle, vajjassa ya ovayaṇakāle–esa ṇaṃ doṇha vi tulle visesāhie| > Saying “Venerable Sir!”, the venerable Gautama paid homage to and revered the Śramaṇa, the Lord Mahāvīra, and having paid homage and reverence spoke thus: > “Venerable Sir! Is a deity of great supernatural power, up to of great majesty, able, having previously thrown a pudgala, to chase after it and catch it?” > “Yes, he is able.” > “For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: ‘A deity of great supernatural power, up to of great majesty, having previously thrown a pudgala, is able to chase after it and catch it’?” > “Gautama! When a pudgala is thrown, it is fast-moving at first, but after that its movement becomes slow. But a deity of great supernatural power, up to of great majesty, is both before and after swift, swift of motion, quick, quick of motion. For that reason, up to he is able to catch it.” > “Venerable Sir, if a deity of great supernatural power, up to is able to chase after it and catch it, why, Venerable Sir, was Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities, not able to catch Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras, with his own hand?” > “Gautama! For the Asurakumāra deities, the range of motion below is swift, indeed swift, quick, indeed quick; their range of motion above is small, indeed small, slow, indeed slow. For the Vaimānika deities, their range of motion above is swift, indeed swift, quick, indeed quick; their range of motion below is small, indeed small, slow, indeed slow. > As much space as Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities, flies up in one samaya, the thunderbolt takes two \[samayas\]; that which the thunderbolt takes two, Camara takes three. The upper-world section of Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities, is least of all; his lower-world section is countably times more. > As much space as Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras, descends below in one samaya, Śakra takes two; that which Śakra takes two, the thunderbolt takes three. The lower-world section of Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras, is least of all; his upper-world section is countably times more. > Thus indeed, Gautama, Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities, was not able to catch Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras, with his own hand.” > “Venerable Sir, regarding the range of motion above, below, and obliquely of Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities: which are less, more, equal, or specifically greater compared to which?” > “Gautama! The space Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities, descends below in one samaya is least of all; he traverses a countable fraction obliquely, and traverses a countable fraction above.” > “Venerable Sir, regarding the range of motion above, below, and obliquely of Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras: which are less, more, equal, or specifically greater compared to which?” > “Gautama! The space Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras, flies up in one samaya is least of all; he traverses a countable fraction obliquely, and traverses a countable fraction below.” > “Venerable Sir, regarding the range of motion above, below, and obliquely of the thunderbolt: which are less, more, equal, or specifically greater compared to which?” > “Gautama! The space the thunderbolt descends below in one samaya is least of all; it traverses a specifically greater part obliquely, and traverses a specifically greater part above.” > “Venerable Sir, regarding the time of descent and the time of ascent of Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities: which are less, more, equal, or specifically greater compared to which?” > “Gautama! The time of ascent of Śakra, the chief of deities, the king of deities, is least of all; the time of descent is countably times more.” > “For Camara also it is like Śakra, with the only difference: the time of descent is least of all; the time of ascent is countably times more.” > “The question regarding the thunderbolt.” “Gautama! The time of ascent is least of all; the time of descent is specifically greater.” > “Venerable Sir, regarding the time of descent and time of ascent of this thunderbolt, of the master of the thunderbolt \[Śakra\], and of Camara, the Indra of the Asuras, the king of the Asuras: which are less, more, equal, or specifically greater compared to which?” > “Gautama! The time of ascent of Śakra and the time of descent of Camara—these two are equal and least of all. The time of descent of Śakra and the time of ascent of the thunderbolt—these two are equal and countably times more. The time of ascent of Camara and the time of descent of the thunderbolt—these two are equal and specifically greater.” > — English (machine translation) (machine translation) - [Previous: 3.2.174](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.3.2.174) - [Next: 3.2.176](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.3.2.176) - [Up: 3.2](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.3.2) ## Translations (3) - [Viyāhapannatti: Hindi translation (Dīparatnasāgara, 2019)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5~hi-deepratnasagar2019.3.2.175) — Hindi - [Viyāhapannatti: Gujarati translation (Dīparatnasāgara, 2020)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5~gu-deepratnasagar2020.3.2.175) — Gujarati - [English (machine translation)](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5~en-mt.3.2.175) — English, machine translation ## Commentaries (2) - [Viyāhapannatti: ṭīkānusārī vivecana](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5!deepratnasagar.265) — Muni Dīparatnasāgara 2000, Gujarati - [Bhagavatīvṛtti](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5!abhayadeva.v5.p191) — Abhayadeva Sūri, Sanskrit --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.3.2.175](https://indike.org/pramana/in.jaina.sveta.anga.5.3.2.175) · Pramāṇa