[Pramāṇa](https://indike.org/pramana/) › [Studies](https://indike.org/pramana/ins) › [Science, technology and education](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science) › [Vada in Theory and Practice: Studies in Debates, Dialogues and Discussions in Indian Intellectual Discourses](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021) › c8.s7.7 # Vada in Theory and Practice: Studies in Debates, Dialogues and Discussions in Indian Intellectual Discourses c8.s7.7 Vāda in Theory and Practice: Studies in Debates, Dialogues and Discussions in Indian Intellectual Discourses c8.s7.7 - **Language:** English ### [c8.s7.7](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021.c8.s7.7) The orthodox Naiyāyikas tried to solve the problem in a different way — they opined that \*vyāpti\* can be grasped without establishing the causal relation, and since it is impossible to observe all the cases of \*tadutpatti\* in past and presence, Dharmakīrti’s concept of \*tadutpatti\* is not acceptable to them. Similarly they also rejected Dharmakīrti’s idea of \*tādātmya\* (common reference), as the essential condition of \*vyāpti\* can be fulfilled without it. They shifted Dharmakīrti’s frame of inductive reasoning to intuitive reasoning.⁵² - [Previous: c8.s7.6](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021.c8.s7.6) - [Next: c8.s7.8](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021.c8.s7.8) - [Up: c8.s7](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021.c8.s7) --- Source: [https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021.c8.s7.7](https://indike.org/pramana/ins.science.tripathi-2021.c8.s7.7) · Pramāṇa