大般涅槃經集解 60.14

60.14

案僧亮曰：第五門，辨滅不滅也。煩惱性滅，智不能滅；若性不滅，智亦不能滅。先以五大為譬，堅他作亦應爾也。寶亮曰：第五門，開此中為三意，明亦無斷義。初以四大為況，各當自性，誰使之然耶？次意云：若言如鹽性鹹，強令異物鹹；智慧強令煩惱滅者，亦不然也。後意云：煩惱與智慧俱念念滅，而言智慧能斷，亦不然也。

Sengliang comments: The fifth approach discerns cessation and non-cessation. Since the nature of afflictions is cessation, wisdom cannot extinguish them; if their nature is not cessation, wisdom also cannot extinguish them. He first uses the five great elements as a metaphor; making others solid would also be like this. Baoliang comments: In the fifth approach, this is opened into three meanings to clarify that there is also no meaning of severance. First, the four great elements are used as an analogy: each abides in its own nature, so who makes them so? The next meaning states: if one says that just as salt is salty by nature and forces other things to become salty, wisdom forces afflictions to cease, this is also not so. The final meaning states: both afflictions and wisdom cease thought after thought, and to say that wisdom can sever them is also not so.