佛祖歷代通載 12.20

12.20

（十二　戊午）　夏四月。追僧道各二七人入宮論議。道士李榮以本際立義。法師義褒徵曰。既標本際。為道本於際耶。際本於道耶。榮曰。互得。褒曰。若道本於際際為道本。則亦可際本於道道為際源。榮曰。亦通耳。褒曰。若本際與道互得相返。則亦可自然與道互相法也。榮曰。道法自然。自然不法道。褒曰。若爾則道本於際。本際不本於道矣。榮意前言之失不復主義。以他語嘲褒。褒正色曰。對萬乘之前立論。申明邪正以簡帝心。豈以他辭塵瀆天聽。榮慚服。帝嘉之令引榮退席。揖黃頤對褒談論。極莫而罷。

(12; wuwu) In the fourth month of summer, twice seven monks and Daoists each were summoned into the palace to debate. The Daoist Li Rong established a thesis based on the "original limit" (benji). Dharma Master Yibao questioned him, saying: "Since you designate the original limit, does the Dao originate in the limit, or does the limit originate in the Dao?" Rong said: "Both obtain mutually." Bao said: "If the Dao originates in the limit, making the limit the origin of the Dao, then can the limit also originate in the Dao, making the Dao the source of the limit?" Rong said: "That also holds." Bao said: "If the original limit and the Dao mutually obtain and reverse each other, then could nature (ziran) and the Dao also mutually emulate each other?" Rong said: "The Dao emulates nature; nature does not emulate the Dao." Bao said: "If so, then the Dao originates in the limit, but the original limit does not originate in the Dao." Realizing the fault in his earlier words, Rong no longer defended his thesis and mocked Bao with other remarks. Bao said with a stern expression: "Establishing a thesis before the Lord of Ten Thousand Chariots is meant to elucidate the heterodox and the orthodox to inform the Emperor's mind. How can one sully the heavenly ears with frivolous talk?" Rong was ashamed and submitted. The Emperor commended Bao and ordered that Rong be led down from the dais. He invited Huang Yi to debate with Bao, and they concluded only at nightfall.