景德傳燈錄 20.13

20.13

Chan Master Huaiyun of Guizong Temple on Mount Lu (the third generation to reside there) was asked: "How is it when there are neither Buddhas nor sentient beings?" The Master said: "What person is like that?" [A monk] asked: "How is it when the water is clear and the fish appear?" The Master said: "Catch one and bring it here." The monk had no reply. (Tong'an said in his place: "To stir is to lose it.") [A monk] asked: "What is Five Old Men Peak?" The Master said: "Loftily towering." [A monk] asked: "How is it when the water is cut off and the wheel stops?" The Master said: "The mill does not turn." He said: "What is it when the mill does not turn?" The Master said: "The wheel does not stop." [A monk] asked: "What is a person amidst the dust?" The Master said: "Ash-headed and dirt-faced." (Tong'an said in his place: "Not brushed off.") [A monk] asked: "What about the World-Honoured One's preaching without preaching and Kāśyapa's hearing without hearing?" The Master said: "Just at such a time, how is it?" He said: "It is not the same as not hearing or preaching." The Master said: "What person is that?" [A monk] asked: "Please explain the place where the student does not reach." The Master said: "From what place do you not reach?"