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景德傳燈錄 8.57

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From then on, his responsiveness and eloquence were swift and acute, and masters from all quarters looked up to him. Once he visited a lecture hall and rejoiced in the *Vajracchedikā Sūtra*. When the lecture came to the passage on 'no self and no person,' he raised a question: "Lecturer, since there is no self and no person, who is lecturing and who is listening?" The lecturer had no reply. The upāsaka said, "Although I am a layperson, I roughly know faith and devotion." The lecturer said, "What then is your meaning, Upāsaka?" The upāsaka then presented a verse:

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