廣弘明集 21.30

21.30

Huiling of Lingen Temple inquired, saying: "Does one perceive existence within the ultimate truth, or perceive existence within the conventional truth?"
The Prince's decree replied, saying: "Within the ultimate truth, one mistakenly perceives the existence of the conventional."
He further inquired: "Is the existence of the conventional truth real, or is it illusory?"
The decree replied: "It is an illusory existence."
He further inquired: "Does one perceive illusion, or does one perceive existence?"
The decree replied: "One perceives illusory existence."
He further inquired: "Within the absence of names and characteristics, how can one perceive existent names and characteristics?"
The decree replied: "Perceiving existent names and characteristics within the absence of names and characteristics is precisely why it is illusory existence."
He further inquired: "Delusion perceives existence within the absence of names and characteristics, just as fire is hot, but a confused person says it is cold. Can cold characteristics be found within heat? If there are names and characteristics within the signless, there should likewise be this cold within fire."
The decree replied: "Fire is ever hot of itself; one deludedly perceives that there is cold. This is the confusion of the confused, which never alters [the heat]."