諸經要集 12.79

12.79

次依論問。中有微細。一切牆壁山崖樹木皆不能礙。此彼中有為相礙耶。有作是說。此彼中有亦不相礙。以極微細相觸身時不覺知故。復有說者。此彼中有亦互相礙。以相遇時此彼展轉有語言故。問若爾寧說中有無礙。答於餘無礙。非謂中有。問此彼中有皆相礙耶。答自類相礙。非於餘類。謂地獄中有。但礙地獄中有。乃至天中有但礙天中有。有作是說。劣礙於勝。以麁重故。勝不礙劣。以細輕故。謂地獄中有礙五中有。傍生中有礙四中有。鬼界中有礙三中有。人中有礙二中有。天中有唯礙天中有。

Next, relying on the treatise, it is asked: The intermediate state is subtle; all walls, cliffs, and trees cannot obstruct it. Do the intermediate states of this one and that one obstruct each other? Some say: The intermediate states of this one and that one do not obstruct each other either, because when their bodies touch each other due to being extremely subtle, they do not perceive it. Others say: The intermediate states of this one and that one do obstruct each other, because when they encounter each other, they speak to one another. Question: If so, why is it said that the intermediate state is unobstructed? Answer: It is unobstructed with respect to other [matter], not with respect to [other] intermediate states. Question: Do the intermediate states of this one and that one all obstruct each other? Answer: Those of their own kind obstruct each other, not those of other kinds: the intermediate state of hell obstructs only the intermediate state of hell, up to the intermediate state of gods which obstructs only the intermediate state of gods. Some say: The inferior obstructs the superior because it is coarse and heavy, while the superior does not obstruct the inferior because it is subtle and light. That is to say, the intermediate state of hell obstructs five intermediate states; the intermediate state of animals obstructs four intermediate states; the intermediate state of the ghost realm obstructs three intermediate states; the intermediate state of humans obstructs two intermediate states; and the intermediate state of gods obstructs only the intermediate state of gods.