With Pāyāsi 10.1-19
Pāyāsisutta 10.1-19
- Language
- Pāli
10.1
“Kiñcāpi bhavaṃ kassapo evamāha, atha kho evaṃ me ettha hoti:
“Even though the worthy Kassapa says this, still I think that
10.2
‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.
there is no afterlife.”
10.3
“Atthi pana, rājañña, pariyāyo …pe…
“Can you prove it?”
10.4
“atthi, bho kassapa, pariyāyo …pe…
“I can.”
10.5
yathā kathaṃ viya, rājaññāti?
“How, exactly, chieftain?”
10.6
“Idha me, bho kassapa, mittāmaccā ñātisālohitā pāṇātipātā paṭiviratā adinnādānā paṭiviratā kāmesumicchācārā paṭiviratā musāvādā paṭiviratā surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā paṭiviratā,
“Well, I have friends and colleagues, relatives and kin who refrain from killing living creatures and so on.
10.7
te aparena samayena ābādhikā honti dukkhitā bāḷhagilānā.
Some time later they become sick, suffering, gravely ill.
10.8
Yadāhaṃ jānāmi:
When I know that
10.9
‘na dānime imamhā ābādhā vuṭṭhahissantī’ti tyāhaṃ upasaṅkamitvā evaṃ vadāmi:
they will not recover from their illness, I go to them and say,
10.10
‘santi kho, bho, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā evaṃvādino evaṃdiṭṭhino:
‘Worthy sir, there are some ascetics and brahmins who have this doctrine and view:
10.11
“ye te pāṇātipātā paṭiviratā adinnādānā paṭiviratā kāmesumicchācārā paṭiviratā musāvādā paṭiviratā surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā paṭiviratā, te kāyassa bhedā paraṃ maraṇā sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapajjanti devānaṃ tāvatiṃsānaṃ sahabyatan”ti.
“Those who refrain from killing living creatures and so on are reborn in a good place, a heavenly realm, in the company of the gods of the thirty-three.”
10.12
Bhavanto kho pāṇātipātā paṭiviratā adinnādānā paṭiviratā kāmesumicchācārā paṭiviratā musāvādā paṭiviratā surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā paṭiviratā.
You do all these things.
10.13
Sace tesaṃ bhavataṃ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṃ saccaṃ vacanaṃ, bhavanto kāyassa bhedā paraṃ maraṇā sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapajjissanti, devānaṃ tāvatiṃsānaṃ sahabyataṃ.
If what those ascetics and brahmins say is true, when your body breaks up, after death, you’ll be reborn in the company of the gods of the thirty-three.
10.14
Sace, bho, kāyassa bhedā paraṃ maraṇā sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapajjeyyātha devānaṃ tāvatiṃsānaṃ sahabyataṃ, yena me āgantvā āroceyyātha:
If that happens, worthy sir, come and tell me that
10.15
“itipi atthi paro loko, atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko”ti.
there is an afterlife.
10.16
Bhavanto kho pana me saddhāyikā paccayikā, yaṃ bhavantehi diṭṭhaṃ, yathā sāmaṃ diṭṭhaṃ evametaṃ bhavissatī’ti.
I trust you and believe you. Anything you see will be just as if I’ve seen it for myself.’
10.17
Te me ‘sādhū’ti paṭissutvā neva āgantvā ārocenti, na pana dūtaṃ pahiṇanti.
They agree to this. But they don’t come back to tell me, nor do they send a messenger.
10.18
Ayampi kho, bho kassapa, pariyāyo, yena me pariyāyena evaṃ hoti:
This is how I prove that
10.19
‘itipi natthi paro loko, natthi sattā opapātikā, natthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.
there is no afterlife.”
Translations (3)
- Razgovor sa Pāyāsijem — sr
- With Pāyāsi — English
- Mit Pāyāsi — German
Commentaries (1)
- Sumaṅgalavilāsinī — Buddhaghosa, Pāli