With Pāyāsi 15.1-11

Pāyāsisutta 15.1-11

“Tena hi, rājañña, taññevettha paṭipucchissāmi, yathā te khameyya, tathā naṃ byākareyyāsi.

“Well then, chieftain, I’ll ask you about this in return, and you can answer as you like.
With Pāyāsi

Abhijānāsi no tvaṃ, rājañña, divā seyyaṃ upagato supinakaṃ passitā ārāmarāmaṇeyyakaṃ vanarāmaṇeyyakaṃ bhūmirāmaṇeyyakaṃ pokkharaṇīrāmaṇeyyakan”ti?

Do you recall ever having a midday nap and seeing delightful parks, woods, meadows, and lotus ponds in a dream?”
With Pāyāsi

“Abhijānāmahaṃ, bho kassapa, divāseyyaṃ upagato supinakaṃ passitā ārāmarāmaṇeyyakaṃ vanarāmaṇeyyakaṃ bhūmirāmaṇeyyakaṃ pokkharaṇīrāmaṇeyyakan”ti.

“I do, worthy Kassapa.”
With Pāyāsi

“Rakkhanti taṃ tamhi samaye khujjāpi vāmanakāpi velāsikāpi komārikāpī”ti?

“At that time were you guarded by hunchbacks, dwarves, coquettes, and maidens?”
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“Evaṃ, bho kassapa, rakkhanti maṃ tamhi samaye khujjāpi vāmanakāpi velāsikāpi komārikāpī”ti.

“I was.”
With Pāyāsi

“Api nu tā tuyhaṃ jīvaṃ passanti pavisantaṃ vā nikkhamantaṃ vā”ti?

“But did they see your soul entering or leaving?”
With Pāyāsi

“No hidaṃ, bho kassapa”.

“No they did not.”
With Pāyāsi

“Tā hi nāma, rājañña, tuyhaṃ jīvantassa jīvantiyo jīvaṃ na passissanti pavisantaṃ vā nikkhamantaṃ vā.

“So if they couldn’t even see your soul entering or leaving while you were still alive,
With Pāyāsi

Kiṃ pana tvaṃ kālaṅkatassa jīvaṃ passissasi pavisantaṃ vā nikkhamantaṃ vā.

how could you see the soul of a dead man?
With Pāyāsi

Imināpi kho te, rājañña, pariyāyena evaṃ hotu:

By this method, too, it ought to be proven that
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‘itipi atthi paro loko, atthi sattā opapātikā, atthi sukatadukkaṭānaṃ kammānaṃ phalaṃ vipāko’”ti.

there is an afterlife, there are beings reborn spontaneously, and there is a fruit or result of good and bad deeds.”
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