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The Lion’s Roar at the Monastery of Lady Udumbarikā 8.1-25

Udumbarikasutta 8.1-25

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Pāli

8.1

Atha kho nigrodho paribbājako te paribbājake appasadde katvā bhagavantaṃ etadavoca:

Then Nigrodha, having quieted those wanderers, said to the Buddha,

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8.2

“mayaṃ kho, bhante, tapojigucchāvādā tapojigucchāsārā tapojigucchāallīnā viharāma.

“Sir, we teach fervent mortification in disgust of sin, regarding it as essential and sticking to it.

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8.3

Kathaṃ santā nu kho, bhante, tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā hoti, kathaṃ aparipuṇṇā”ti?

How are the conditions for the fervent mortification in disgust of sin completed, and how are they incomplete?”

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8.4

“Idha, nigrodha, tapassī acelako hoti muttācāro, hatthāpalekhano, naehibhaddantiko, natiṭṭhabhaddantiko, nābhihaṭaṃ, na uddissakataṃ, na nimantanaṃ sādiyati,

“Nigrodha, it’s when a mortifier goes naked, ignoring conventions. They lick their hands, and don’t come or wait when called. They don’t consent to food brought to them, or food prepared on their behalf, or an invitation for a meal.

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8.5

so na kumbhimukhā paṭiggaṇhāti, na kaḷopimukhā paṭiggaṇhāti, na eḷakamantaraṃ, na daṇḍamantaraṃ, na musalamantaraṃ, na dvinnaṃ bhuñjamānānaṃ, na gabbhiniyā, na pāyamānāya, na purisantaragatāya, na saṅkittīsu, na yattha sā upaṭṭhito hoti, na yattha makkhikā saṇḍasaṇḍacārinī, na macchaṃ, na maṃsaṃ, na suraṃ, na merayaṃ, na thusodakaṃ pivati,

They don’t receive anything from a pot or bowl; or from someone who keeps sheep, or who has a weapon or a shovel in their home; or where a couple is eating; or where there is a woman who is pregnant, breast-feeding, or who lives with a man; or where there’s a hound waiting or flies buzzing. They accept no fish or meat or beer or wine, and drink no fermented gruel.

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8.6

so ekāgāriko vā hoti ekālopiko, dvāgāriko vā hoti dvālopiko, sattāgāriko vā hoti sattālopiko, ekissāpi dattiyā yāpeti, dvīhipi dattīhi yāpeti, sattahipi dattīhi yāpeti;

They go to just one house for alms, taking just one mouthful, or two houses and two mouthfuls, up to seven houses and seven mouthfuls. They feed on one saucer a day, two saucers a day, up to seven saucers a day.

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8.7

ekāhikampi āhāraṃ āhāreti, dvīhikampi āhāraṃ āhāreti, sattāhikampi āhāraṃ āhāreti, iti evarūpaṃ addhamāsikampi pariyāyabhattabhojanānuyogamanuyutto viharati.

They eat once a day, once every second day, up to once a week, and so on, even up to once a fortnight. They live committed to the practice of eating food at set intervals.

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8.8

So sākabhakkho vā hoti, sāmākabhakkho vā hoti, nīvārabhakkho vā hoti, daddulabhakkho vā hoti, haṭabhakkho vā hoti, kaṇabhakkho vā hoti, ācāmabhakkho vā hoti, piññākabhakkho vā hoti, tiṇabhakkho vā hoti, gomayabhakkho vā hoti; vanamūlaphalāhāro yāpeti pavattaphalabhojī.

They eat herbs, millet, wild rice, poor rice, water lettuce, rice bran, scum from boiling rice, sesame flour, grass, or cow dung. They survive on forest roots and fruits, or eating fallen fruit.

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8.9

So sāṇānipi dhāreti, masāṇānipi dhāreti, chavadussānipi dhāreti, paṃsukūlānipi dhāreti, tirīṭānipi dhāreti, ajinampi dhāreti, ajinakkhipampi dhāreti, kusacīrampi dhāreti, vākacīrampi dhāreti, phalakacīrampi dhāreti, kesakambalampi dhāreti, vāḷakambalampi dhāreti, ulūkapakkhampi dhāreti,

They wear robes of sunn hemp, mixed hemp, corpse-wrapping cloth, rags, lodh tree bark, antelope hide (whole or in strips), kusa grass, bark, wood-chips, human hair, horse-tail hair, or owls’ wings.

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8.10

kesamassulocakopi hoti kesamassulocanānuyogamanuyutto,

They tear out their hair and beard, committed to this practice.

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8.11

ubbhaṭṭhakopi hoti āsanapaṭikkhitto,

They constantly stand, turning down seats.

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8.12

ukkuṭikopi hoti ukkuṭikappadhānamanuyutto,

They squat, committed to the endeavor of squatting.

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8.13

kaṇṭakāpassayikopi hoti kaṇṭakāpassaye seyyaṃ kappeti,

They lie on a mat of thorns, making a mat of thorns their bed.

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8.14

phalakaseyyampi kappeti, thaṇḍilaseyyampi kappeti,

They make their bed on a plank, or the bare ground.

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8.15

ekapassayikopi hoti

They lie only on one side.

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8.16

rajojalladharo,

They wear dust and dirt.

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8.17

abbhokāsikopi hoti

They stay in the open air.

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8.18

yathāsanthatiko,

They sleep wherever they lay their mat.

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8.19

vekaṭikopi hoti vikaṭabhojanānuyogamanuyutto,

They eat unnatural things, committed to the practice of eating unnatural foods.

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8.20

apānakopi hoti apānakattamanuyutto,

They don’t drink, committed to the practice of not drinking liquids.

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8.21

sāyatatiyakampi udakorohanānuyogamanuyutto viharati.

They’re devoted to ritual bathing three times a day, including at dusk.

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8.22

Taṃ kiṃ maññasi, nigrodha,

What do you think, Nigrodha?

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8.23

yadi evaṃ sante tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā vā hoti aparipuṇṇā vā”ti?

If this is so, is the fervent mortification in disgust of sin complete, or incomplete?”

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8.24

“Addhā kho, bhante, evaṃ sante tapojigucchā paripuṇṇā hoti, no aparipuṇṇā”ti.

“Clearly, sir, if that is so the fervent mortification in disgust of sin is complete, not incomplete.”

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8.25

“Evaṃ paripuṇṇāyapi kho ahaṃ, nigrodha, tapojigucchāya anekavihite upakkilese vadāmī”ti.

“But even such a completed mortification has many defects, I say.”

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