With Poṭṭhapāda 6.1-35
Poṭṭhapādasutta 6.1-35
- Language
- Pāli
6.1
Evaṃ vutte, poṭṭhapādo paribbājako bhagavantaṃ etadavoca:
When he said this, the wanderer Poṭṭhapāda said to the Buddha,
6.2
“tiṭṭhatesā, bhante, kathā, yāya mayaṃ etarahi kathāya sannisinnā.
“Sir, leave aside what we were sitting talking about just now.
6.3
Nesā, bhante, kathā bhagavato dullabhā bhavissati pacchāpi savanāya.
It won’t be hard for you to hear about that later.
6.4
Purimāni, bhante, divasāni purimatarāni, nānātitthiyānaṃ samaṇabrāhmaṇānaṃ kotūhalasālāya sannisinnānaṃ sannipatitānaṃ abhisaññānirodhe kathā udapādi:
Sir, a few days ago several ascetics and brahmins who follow various other religions were sitting together at the debating hall, and a discussion about the cessation of perception came up among them:
6.5
‘kathaṃ nu kho, bho, abhisaññānirodho hotī’ti?
‘How does the cessation of perception happen?’
6.6
Tatrekacce evamāhaṃsu:
Some of them said:
6.7
‘ahetū appaccayā purisassa saññā uppajjantipi nirujjhantipi.
‘A person’s perceptions arise and cease without cause or reason.
6.8
Yasmiṃ samaye uppajjanti, saññī tasmiṃ samaye hoti.
When they arise, you become percipient.
6.9
Yasmiṃ samaye nirujjhanti, asaññī tasmiṃ samaye hotī’ti.
When they cease, you become non-percipient.’
6.10
Ittheke abhisaññānirodhaṃ paññapenti.
That’s how some describe the cessation of perception.
6.11
Tamañño evamāha:
But someone else says:
6.12
‘na kho pana metaṃ, bho, evaṃ bhavissati.
‘That’s not how it is, good fellows!
6.13
Saññā hi, bho, purisassa attā.
Perception is a person’s self,
6.14
Sā ca kho upetipi apetipi.
which enters and departs.
6.15
Yasmiṃ samaye upeti, saññī tasmiṃ samaye hoti.
When it enters, you become percipient.
6.16
Yasmiṃ samaye apeti, asaññī tasmiṃ samaye hotī’ti.
When it departs, you become non-percipient.’
6.17
Ittheke abhisaññānirodhaṃ paññapenti.
That’s how some describe the cessation of perception.
6.18
Tamañño evamāha:
But someone else says:
6.19
‘na kho pana metaṃ, bho, evaṃ bhavissati.
‘That’s not how it is, good fellows!
6.20
Santi hi, bho, samaṇabrāhmaṇā mahiddhikā mahānubhāvā.
There are ascetics and brahmins of great power and might.
6.21
Te imassa purisassa saññaṃ upakaḍḍhantipi apakaḍḍhantipi.
They insert and extract a person’s perception.
6.22
Yasmiṃ samaye upakaḍḍhanti, saññī tasmiṃ samaye hoti.
When they insert it, you become percipient.
6.23
Yasmiṃ samaye apakaḍḍhanti, asaññī tasmiṃ samaye hotī’ti.
When they extract it, you become non-percipient.’
6.24
Ittheke abhisaññānirodhaṃ paññapenti.
That’s how some describe the cessation of perception.
6.25
Tamañño evamāha:
But someone else says:
6.26
‘na kho pana metaṃ, bho, evaṃ bhavissati.
‘That’s not how it is, good fellows!
6.27
Santi hi, bho, devatā mahiddhikā mahānubhāvā.
There are deities of great power and might.
6.28
Tā imassa purisassa saññaṃ upakaḍḍhantipi apakaḍḍhantipi.
They insert and extract a person’s perception.
6.29
Yasmiṃ samaye upakaḍḍhanti, saññī tasmiṃ samaye hoti.
When they insert it, you become percipient.
6.30
Yasmiṃ samaye apakaḍḍhanti, asaññī tasmiṃ samaye hotī’ti.
When they extract it, you become non-percipient.’
6.31
Ittheke abhisaññānirodhaṃ paññapenti.
That’s how some describe the cessation of perception.
6.32
Tassa mayhaṃ, bhante, bhagavantaṃyeva ārabbha sati udapādi:
That reminded me of the Buddha:
6.33
‘aho nūna bhagavā, aho nūna sugato, yo imesaṃ dhammānaṃ sukusalo’ti.
‘Surely it must be the Blessed One, the Holy One who is so very skilled in such matters.’
6.34
Bhagavā, bhante, kusalo, bhagavā pakataññū abhisaññānirodhassa.
The Buddha is skilled and well-versed concerning the cessation of perception.
6.35
Kathaṃ nu kho, bhante, abhisaññānirodho hotī”ti?
How does the cessation of perception happen?”
Translations (4)
- Razgovor sa Poṭṭhapādom — sr
- Mit Poṭṭhapāda — German
- With Poṭṭhapāda — English
- Potthapada Sutta (Dialogues of the Buddha) — English
Commentaries (1)
- Sumaṅgalavilāsinī — Buddhaghosa, Pāli
Linked texts (2)
- Cūḷasakuludāyisutta — Pāli
- 長阿含經 — Classical Chinese