The Long Āgama Sūtra 28.7

28.7

梵志白佛言：「世尊！昨日多有梵志、沙門、婆羅門集此婆羅門堂，說如是事，相違逆論。瞿曇！或有梵志作是說言：『人無因無緣而想生，無因無緣而想滅，想有去來，來則想生，去則想滅。』瞿曇！或有梵志作是說：『由命有想生，由命有想滅，彼想有去來，來則想生，去則想滅。』瞿曇！或有梵志作是說：『如先所言，無有是處。有大鬼神，有大威力，彼持想去，彼持想來，彼持想去則想滅，彼持想來則想生。』我因是故生念，念沙門瞿曇先知此義，必能善知想知滅定。」

The wanderer told the Buddha, “Bhagavān, yesterday, there was a meeting of wanderers, ascetics, and priests at the priest’s meeting all. They discussed this subject with contradictory theories.

6.\ “Gautama, sometimes a wanderer would say, ‘A person’s conceptions arise without cause or condition, and they cease without cause or condition.’

“Gautama, sometimes a wanderer would say, ‘It’s because of the soul that conceptions arise, and they cease when it departs.’

“Gautama, sometimes a wanderer would say, ‘What was said before isn’t possible. There’s a great demon spirit who possesses great power. It takes conceptions away and brings conceptions with it. When it takes them away, one’s conceptions cease. When it brings them, one’s conceptions arise.’

“A thought occurred to me because of this. I thought, ‘The ascetic Gautama surely knows about this subject. Surely, he would know conceptions well and know about the attainment of cessation.’”