Verses on Dhamma 7.8.p2
Dhammapadaṭṭhakathā 7.8.p2
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7.8.p2
Ekasmiñhi samaye tiṃsamattā āraññakā bhikkhū satthu santikaṃ āgantvā vanditvā nisīdiṃsu. Satthā tesaṃ saha paṭisambhidāhi arahattassūpanissayaṃ disvā sāriputtattheraṃ āmantetvā ‘‘saddahasi tvaṃ, sāriputta, saddhindriyaṃ bhāvitaṃ bahulīkataṃ amatogadhaṃ hoti amatapariyosāna’’nti (saṃ. ni. 5.514) evaṃ pañcindriyāni ārabbha pañhaṃ pucchi. Thero ‘‘na khvāhaṃ, bhante, ettha bhagavato saddhāya gacchāmi, saddhindriyaṃ…pe… amatapariyosānaṃ. Yesañhetaṃ, bhante, aññātaṃ assa adiṭṭhaṃ aviditaṃ asacchikataṃ aphassitaṃ paññāya, te tattha paresaṃ saddhāya gaccheyyuṃ. Saddhindriyaṃ…pe… amatapariyosāna’’nti (saṃ. ni. 5.514) evaṃ taṃ pañhaṃ byākāsi. Taṃ sutvā bhikkhū kathaṃ samuṭṭhāpesuṃ ‘‘sāriputtatthero micchāgahaṇaṃ neva vissajjesi, ajjāpi sammāsambuddhassa na saddahatiyevā’’ti. Taṃ sutvā satthā ‘‘kiṃ nāmetaṃ, bhikkhave, vadetha. Ahañhi ‘pañcindriyāni abhāvetvā samathavipassanaṃ avaḍḍhetvā maggaphalāni sacchikātuṃ samattho nāma atthīti saddahasi tvaṃ sāriputto’ti pucchiṃ. So ‘evaṃ sacchikaronto atthi nāmāti na saddahāmi, bhante’ti kathesi. Na dinnassa vā katassa vā phalaṃ vipākaṃ na saddahati, nāpi buddhādīnaṃ guṇaṃ na saddahati. Eso pana attanā paṭividdhesu jhānavipassanāmaggaphaladhammesu paresaṃ saddhāya na gacchati. Tasmā anupavajjo’’ti vatvā anusandhiṃ ghaṭetvā dhammaṃ desento imaṃ gāthamāha –
For one day thirty forest-dwellers approached the Teacher, paid obeisance to him, and sat down. The Teacher, seeing that they possessed the requisite faculties for attaining Arahatship, addressed Elder Sāriputta as follows, "Sāriputta, do you believe that the quality of faith, when it has been developed and enlarged, is connected with the Deathless and terminates in the Deathless?" In this manner the Teacher questioned the Elder with reference to the Five Moral Qualities.
Said the Elder, "Reverend Sir, I do not go by the faith of the Exalted One in this matter, that the quality of faith, when it has been developed and enlarged, is connected with the Deathless and terminates in the Deathless. But of course, Reverend Sir, those who have not known the Deathless or seen or perceived or realized or grasped the Deathless by the power of reason, such persons must of necessity go by the faith of others in this matter; namely, that the faculty of faith, when it has been developed and enlarged, is connected with the Deathless and terminates in the Deathless." Thus did the Elder answer his question.
When the monks heard this, they began a discussion: "Elder Sāriputta has never really given up false views. Even to-day he refused to believe even the Supremely Enlightened One." When the Teacher heard this, he said, "Monks, why do you say this? For I
-N.2.188 asked Sāriputta the following question, ‘Sāriputta, do you believe that without developing the Five Moral Qualities, without developing Tranquillity and Spiritual Insight, it is possible for a man to realize the Paths and the Fruits?’ And he answered me as follows, ‘There is no one who can thus realize the Paths and the Fruits.’ Then I asked him, ‘Do you not believe that there is such a thing as the ripening of the fruit of almsgiving and good works? Do you not believe in the virtues of the Buddhas and the rest?’ But as a matter of fact, Sāriputta walks not by the faith of others, for the reason that he has, in and by himself, attained states of mind to which the Paths and the Fruits lead, by the power of Spiritual Insight induced by Ecstatic Meditation. Therefore he is not open to censure.” So saying, he joined the connection, and preaching the Law, pronounced the following Stanza,
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- Buddhist Legends (Harvard Oriental Series 28–30) — Eugene Watson Burlingame 1921, English
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- Dhammapada — Pāli