Viyahapannatti 13.7: Uddeśaka 7: bhāṣā
Viyāhapannatti 13.7
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Uddeśaka 7: bhāṣā
13.7.589
rāyagihe jāva evaṃ vayāsī–āyā bhaṃte! bhāsā? annā bhāsā?
goyamā! no āyā bhāsā, annā bhāsā|
rūviṃ bhaṃte! bhāsā? arūviṃ bhāsā?
goyamā! rūviṃ bhāsā, no arūviṃ bhāsā|
sacittā bhaṃte! bhāsā? acittā bhāsā?
goyamā! no sacittā bhāsā, acittā bhāsā|
jīvā bhaṃte! bhāsā? ajīvā bhāsā?
goyamā! no jīvā bhāsā, ajīvā bhāsā|
jīvāṇaṃ bhaṃte! bhāsā? ajīvāṇaṃ bhāsā?
goyamā! jīvāṇaṃ bhāsā, no ajīvāṇaṃ bhāsā|
puvviṃ bhaṃte! bhāsā? bhāsijjamāṇī bhāsā? bhāsāsamayavītikkaṃtā bhāsā?
goyamā! no puvviṃ bhāsā, bhāsijjamāṇī bhāsā, no bhāsāsamayavītikkaṃtā bhāsā|
puvviṃ bhaṃte! bhāsā bhijjati? bhāsijjamāṇī bhāsā bhijjati? bhāsāsamayavītikkaṃtā bhāsā bhijjati?
goyamā! no puvviṃ bhāsā bhijjati, bhāsijjamāṇī bhāsā bhijjati, no bhāsāsamayavītikkaṃtā bhāsā bhijjati|
kativihā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! bhāsā pannattā?
goyamā! cauvvihā bhāsā pannattā, taṃ jahā–saccā, mosā, saccāmosā, asaccāmosā|
At Rājagṛha, up to [Gautama] spoke thus:
'Is speech the soul, Venerable Sir, or is speech something else?'
'Gautama, speech is not the soul; speech is something else.'
'Is speech possessed of form, Venerable Sir, or formless?'
'Gautama, speech has form; it is not formless.'
'Is speech animate, Venerable Sir, or inanimate?'
'Gautama, speech is not animate; it is inanimate.'
'Is speech a soul, Venerable Sir, or a non-soul?'
'Gautama, speech is not a soul; it is a non-soul.'
'Does speech belong to souls, Venerable Sir, or to non-souls?'
'Gautama, speech belongs to souls, not to non-souls.'
'Is speech present beforehand, Venerable Sir, or while being spoken, or when the moment of speaking has elapsed?'
'Gautama, it is not speech beforehand, it is speech while being spoken, it is not speech when the moment of speaking has elapsed.'
'Does speech divide beforehand, Venerable Sir, or does it divide while being spoken, or does it divide when the moment of speaking has elapsed?'
'Gautama, it does not divide beforehand, it divides while being spoken, it does not divide when the moment of speaking has elapsed.'
'How many kinds of speech are declared, Venerable Sir?'
'Gautama, four kinds of speech are declared, namely: true, false, true-and-false, and neither-true-nor-false.'
13.7.590
āyā bhaṃte! maṇe? anne maṇe?
goyamā! no āyā maṇe, anne maṇe|
rūviṃ bhaṃte! maṇe? arūviṃ maṇe?
goyamā! rūviṃ maṇe, no arūviṃ maṇe|
sacitte bhaṃte! maṇe? acitte maṇe?
goyamā! no sacitte maṇe, acitte maṇe|
jīve bhaṃte! maṇe? ajīve maṇe?
goyamā! no jīve maṇe, ajīve maṇe|
jīvāṇaṃ bhaṃte! maṇe? ajīvāṇaṃ maṇe?
goyamā! jīvāṇaṃ maṇe, no ajīvāṇaṃ maṇe|
puvviṃ bhaṃte! maṇe? maṇijjamāṇe maṇe? maṇasamayavītikkaṃte maṇe?
goyamā! no puvviṃ maṇe, maṇijjamāṇe maṇe, no maṇasamayavītikkaṃte maṇe|
puvviṃ bhaṃte! maṇe bhijjati, maṇijjamāṇe maṇe bhijjati, maṇasamayavītikkaṃte maṇe bhijjati?
goyamā! no puvviṃ maṇe bhijjati, maṇijjamāṇe maṇe bhijjati, no manasamayavītikkaṃte maṇe bhijjati|
kativihe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! mane pannatte?
goyamā! cauvvihe mane pannatte, taṃ jahā–sacce, mose, saccāmose, asaccāmose|
'Is the mind the soul, Venerable Sir, or is the mind something else?'
'Gautama, the mind is not the soul; the mind is something else.'
'Is the mind possessed of form, Venerable Sir, or formless?'
'Gautama, the mind has form; it is not formless.'
'Is the mind animate, Venerable Sir, or inanimate?'
'Gautama, the mind is not animate; it is inanimate.'
'Is the mind a soul, Venerable Sir, or a non-soul?'
'Gautama, the mind is not a soul; it is a non-soul.'
'Does the mind belong to souls, Venerable Sir, or to non-souls?'
'Gautama, the mind belongs to souls, not to non-souls.'
'Is it the mind beforehand, Venerable Sir, or while being mentally engaged, or when the moment of mental engagement has elapsed?'
'Gautama, it is not the mind beforehand, it is the mind while being mentally engaged, it is not the mind when the moment of mental engagement has elapsed.'
'Does the mind divide beforehand, Venerable Sir, or does it divide while being mentally engaged, or does it divide when the moment of mental engagement has elapsed?'
'Gautama, it does not divide beforehand, it divides while being mentally engaged, it does not divide when the moment of mental engagement has elapsed.'
'How many kinds of mind are declared, Venerable Sir?'
'Gautama, four kinds of mind are declared, namely: true, false, true-and-false, and neither-true-nor-false.'
13.7.591
āyā bhaṃte! kāye? anne kāye?
goyamā! āyā vi kāye, anne vi kāye|
rūviṃ bhaṃte! kāye? arūviṃ kāye?
goyamā! rūviṃ pi kāye, arūviṃ pi kāye|
sacitte bhaṃte! kāye? acitte kāye?
goyamā! sacitte vi kāye, acitte vi kāye|
jīve bhaṃte! kāye? ajīve kāye?
goyamā! jīve vi kāye, ajīve vi kāye|
jīvāṇaṃ bhaṃte! kāye? ajīvāṇaṃ kāye?
goyamā! jīvāṇa vi kāye, ajīvāṇa vi kāye|
puvviṃ bhaṃte! kāye? kāyijjamāṇe kāye? kāyasamayavītikkaṃte kāye?
goyamā! puvviṃ pi kāye, kāyijjamāṇe vi kāye, kāyasamayavītikkaṃte vi kāye|
puvviṃ bhaṃte! kāye bhijjati? kāyijjamāṇe kāye bhijjati? kāyasamayavītikkaṃte kāye bhijjati?
goyamā! puvviṃ pi kāye bhijjati, kāyijjamāṇe vi kāye bhijjati, kāyasamayavītikkaṃte vi kāye bhijjati|
'Is the body the soul, Venerable Sir, or is the body something else?'
'Gautama, the body is both the soul and something else.'
'Is the body possessed of form, Venerable Sir, or formless?'
'Gautama, the body is both possessed of form and formless.'
'Is the body animate, Venerable Sir, or inanimate?'
'Gautama, the body is both animate and inanimate.'
'Is the body a soul, Venerable Sir, or a non-soul?'
'Gautama, the body is both a soul and a non-soul.'
'Does the body belong to souls, Venerable Sir, or to non-souls?'
'Gautama, the body belongs both to souls and to non-souls.'
'Is it the body beforehand, Venerable Sir, or while functioning bodily, or when the moment of bodily functioning has elapsed?'
'Gautama, it is the body beforehand, it is the body while functioning bodily, and it is the body when the moment of bodily functioning has elapsed.'
'Does the body divide beforehand, Venerable Sir, or does it divide while functioning bodily, or does it divide when the moment of bodily functioning has elapsed?'
'Gautama, it divides beforehand, it divides while functioning bodily, and it divides when the moment of bodily functioning has elapsed.'
13.7.592
kativihe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kāye pannatte?
goyamā! sattavihe kāye pannatte, taṃ jahā–orālie, orāliyamīsae, veuvvie, veuvviya-mīsae, āhārae, āhāragamīsae, kammae|
kativihe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! maraṇe pannatte?
goyamā! paṃcavihe maraṇe pannatte, taṃ jahā–āvīciyamaraṇe, ohimaraṇe, ātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe, bālamaraṇe, paṃḍiyamaraṇe|
āvīciyamaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! paṃcavihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–davvāvīciyamaraṇe, khettāvīciyamaraṇe, kālāvīciyamaraṇe, bhavāvīciyamaraṇe, bhāvāvīciyamaraṇe|
davvāvīciyamaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! cauvvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā– neraiyadavvāvīciyamaraṇe, tirikkhajoṇiyadavvāvīciya-maraṇe, manussadavvāvīciyamaraṇe, devadavvāvīciyamaraṇe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–neraiyadavvāvīciyamaraṇe-neraiyadavvāvīciyamaraṇe?
goyamā! jaṇṇaṃ neraiyā neraie davve vaṭṭamāṇā jāiṃ davvāiṃ neraiyāuyattāe gahiyāiṃ baddhāiṃ puṭṭhāiṃ kaḍāiṃ paṭṭhaviyāiṃ niviṭṭhāiṃ abhiniviṭṭhāiṃ abhisamaṇṇāgayāiṃ bhavaṃti tāiṃ davvāiṃ āvīcimaṇusamayaṃ niraṃtaraṃ maraṃti tti kaṭṭu| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai–neraiyadavvāvīciyamaraṇe, evaṃ jāva devadavvā-vīciyamaraṇe|
khettāvīciyamaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! cauvvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–neraiyakhettāvīciyamaraṇe jāva devakhettāvīciyamaraṇe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–neraiyakhettāvīciyamaraṇe-neraiyakhettāvīciyamaraṇe?
goyamā! jaṇṇaṃ neraiyā neraiyakhette vaṭṭamāṇā jāiṃ davvāiṃ neraiyāuyattāe gahiyāiṃ evaṃ jaheva davvāvīciyamaraṇe taheva khettāvīciyamaraṇe vi| evaṃ jāva bhāvāvīciyamaraṇe|
ohimaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! paṃcavihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–davvohimaraṇe, khettohimaraṇe, kālohimaraṇe, bhavohimaraṇe, bhāvohimaraṇe|
davvohimaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! cauvvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–neraiyadavvohimaraṇe jāva devadavvohimaraṇe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–neraiyadavvohimaraṇe-neraiyadavvohimaraṇe?
goyamā! je ṇaṃ neraiyā neraiyadavve vaṭṭamāṇā jāiṃ davvāiṃ saṃpayaṃ maraṃti, te ṇaṃ neraiyā tāiṃ davvāiṃ aṇāgae kāle puṇo vi marissaṃti| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! jāva davvohimaraṇe| evaṃ tirikkhajoṇiya-manussa-devadavvohimaraṇe vi| evaṃ eeṇaṃ gameṇaṃ khettohi-maraṇe vi, kālohimaraṇe vi, bhavohimaraṇe vi, bhāvohimaraṇe vi|
ātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! –pucchā|
goyamā! paṃcavihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–davvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe, khettātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe jāva bhāvātiyaṃ-tiyamaraṇe|
davvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! cauvvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–neraiyadavvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe jāva devadavvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–neraiyadavvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe-neraiyadavvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe?
goyamā! je ṇaṃ neraiyā neraiyadavve vaṭṭamāṇā jāiṃ davvāiṃ saṃpayaṃ maraṃti, te ṇaṃ neraiyā tāiṃ davvāiṃ anāgae kāle no puṇo vi marissaṃti| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ jāva neraiyadavvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe| evaṃ tirikkhajoṇiya-manussa-devadavvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe| evaṃ khettāyaṃtiyamaraṇe vi, evaṃ jāva bhāvātiyaṃtiyamaraṇe vi|
bālamaraṇeṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! duvālasavihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–1. valayamaraṇe 2. vasaṭṭamaraṇe 3. aṃtosallamaraṇe 4. tabbhavamaraṇe 5. giripaḍaṇe 6. tarupaḍaṇe 7. jalappavese 8. jalaṇappavese 9. visabhakkhaṇe 1. satthovāḍaṇe 11. vehāṇase 12. gaddhapaṭṭhe|
paṃḍiyamaraṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! duvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–pāovagamaṇe ya, bhattapaccakkhāṇe ya|
pāovagamaṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! duvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–nīhārime ya, anīhārime ya| niyamaṃ apaḍikamme|
bhattapaccakkhāṇe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kativihe pannatte?
goyamā! duvihe pannatte, taṃ jahā–nīhārime ya, anīhārime | niyamaṃ sapaḍikamme|
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|
"How many kinds of body are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Seven kinds of body are declared, namely: gross, mixed gross, transformable, mixed transformable, projectable, mixed projectable, and karmic.
How many kinds of death are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Five kinds of death are declared, namely: moment-by-moment death, limited death, absolute death, foolish death, and wise death.
How many kinds of moment-by-moment death are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Five kinds are declared, namely: moment-by-moment death regarding substance, moment-by-moment death regarding realm, moment-by-moment death regarding time, moment-by-moment death regarding state of existence, and moment-by-moment death regarding psychic state.
How many kinds of moment-by-moment death regarding substance are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Four kinds are declared, namely: moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being substance, moment-by-moment death regarding animal substance, moment-by-moment death regarding human substance, and moment-by-moment death regarding celestial substance.
For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being substance, moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being substance'?"
"Gautama! Because the substances which the inhabitants of hell, existing in hell-being substance, have seized, bound, touched, made, established, settled, deeply settled, and fully acquired as hell-lifespan, those substances die continuously at every moment without interruption. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: 'moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being substance', and so forth up to moment-by-moment death regarding celestial substance.
How many kinds of moment-by-moment death regarding realm are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Four kinds are declared, namely: moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being realm, up to moment-by-moment death regarding celestial realm.
For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being realm, moment-by-moment death regarding hell-being realm'?"
"Gautama! Because the substances which the inhabitants of hell, existing in the hell-being realm, have seized as hell-lifespan... in the same manner as moment-by-moment death regarding substance, just so moment-by-moment death regarding realm also. Thus up to moment-by-moment death regarding psychic state.
How many kinds of limited death are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Five kinds are declared, namely: limited death regarding substance, limited death regarding realm, limited death regarding time, limited death regarding state of existence, and limited death regarding psychic state.
How many kinds of limited death regarding substance are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Four kinds are declared, namely: limited death regarding hell-being substance, up to limited death regarding celestial substance.
For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'limited death regarding hell-being substance, limited death regarding hell-being substance'?"
"Gautama! The substances regarding which those inhabitants of hell, existing in hell-being substance, presently die, those inhabitants of hell will also die regarding those substances in the future. For that reason, Gautama, up to limited death regarding substance. In this way also limited death regarding animal, human, and celestial substance. By this textual sequence also limited death regarding realm, limited death regarding time, limited death regarding state of existence, and limited death regarding psychic state.
Absolute death, Venerable Sir?"—the inquiry.
"Gautama! Five kinds are declared, namely: absolute death regarding substance, absolute death regarding realm, up to absolute death regarding psychic state.
How many kinds of absolute death regarding substance are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Four kinds are declared, namely: absolute death regarding hell-being substance, up to absolute death regarding celestial substance.
For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'absolute death regarding hell-being substance, absolute death regarding hell-being substance'?"
"Gautama! The substances regarding which those inhabitants of hell, existing in hell-being substance, presently die, those inhabitants of hell will not die regarding those substances again in the future. For that reason, up to absolute death regarding hell-being substance. In this way absolute death regarding animal, human, and celestial substance. In this way also absolute death regarding realm, thus up to absolute death regarding psychic state.
How many kinds of foolish death are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Twelve kinds are declared, namely: 1. death by enclosure, 2. death by despair, 3. death with internal thorns, 4. death into the same state of existence, 5. falling from a mountain, 6. falling from a tree, 7. entering water, 8. entering fire, 9. consuming poison, 10. striking with a weapon, 11. hanging, 12. being devoured by vultures.
How many kinds of wise death are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Two kinds are declared, namely: tree-like motionless fast, and renunciation of food.
How many kinds of tree-like motionless fast are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Two kinds are declared, namely: with body removal, and without body removal. Invariably without attending to the body.
How many kinds of renunciation of food are declared, Venerable Sir?"
"Gautama! Two kinds are declared, namely: with body removal, and without body removal. Invariably with attending to the body."
"That is so, Venerable Sir! That is so, Venerable Sir!"
Translations (3)
- Viyāhapannatti: Hindi translation (Dīparatnasāgara, 2019) — Hindi
- Viyāhapannatti: Gujarati translation (Dīparatnasāgara, 2020) — Gujarati
- English (machine translation) — English, machine translation
Commentaries (2)
- Viyāhapannatti: ṭīkānusārī vivecana — Muni Dīparatnasāgara 2000, Gujarati
- Bhagavatīvṛtti — Abhayadeva Sūri, Sanskrit