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Viyahapannatti 29

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“Venerable Sir! Did souls begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at the same time? Did they begin [it] at the same time and conclude [it] at different times? Did they begin [it] at different times and conclude [it] at the same time? Did they begin [it] at different times and conclude [it] at different times?”
“Gautama! Some began [it] at the same time and concluded [it] at the same time, up to some began [it] at different times and concluded [it] at different times.”
“Venerable Sir! For what reason is it said that some began [it] at the same time and concluded [it] at the same time, and so forth?”
“Gautama! Souls are declared to be of four kinds, namely: some have equal lifespan and are born at the same time; some have equal lifespan and are born at different times; some have unequal lifespan and are born at the same time; some have unequal lifespan and are born at different times. Therein, those who have equal lifespan and are born at the same time begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at the same time. Therein, those who have equal lifespan and are born at different times begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at different times. Therein, those who have unequal lifespan and are born at the same time begin [experiencing] evil karma at different times and conclude [it] at the same time. Therein, those who have unequal lifespan and are born at different times begin [experiencing] evil karma at different times and conclude [it] at different times. For that reason, Gautama, it is said thus.”
“Venerable Sir! Do souls possessing lesyā [experience] evil karma…?” Exactly the same; in this way in all places, up to those with formless application. All these terms should be stated according to this exposition.
“Venerable Sir! Did inhabitants of hell begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at the same time?—[and so forth].”
“Gautama! Some began [it] at the same time…” Just as for souls, so it should be stated, up to those with formless application. In this way up to the Vaimānikas; whatever belongs to whichever should be stated by this very sequence, as in the series of twenty-four places for evil [karma]. Following this sequence, in all eight karma-types, eight series of twenty-four places should be stated, beginning with souls and concluding with the Vaimānikas. This first uddeśaka should be spoken as comprehending the nine series of twenty-four places. “Truly so, Venerable Sir! Truly so, Venerable Sir!”—[he said].

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“Venerable Sir! Did immediately reborn inhabitants of hell begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at the same time?—[and so forth].”
“Gautama! Some began [it] at the same time and concluded [it] at the same time; some began [it] at the same time and concluded [it] at different times.”
“Venerable Sir! For what reason is it said that some began [it] at the same time, and so forth?”
“Gautama! Immediately reborn inhabitants of hell are declared to be of two kinds, namely: some have equal lifespan and are born at the same time; some have equal lifespan and are born at different times. Therein, those who have equal lifespan and are born at the same time begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at the same time. Therein, those who have equal lifespan and are born at different times begin [experiencing] evil karma at the same time and conclude [it] at different times. For that reason, it is said thus.”
“Venerable Sir! Do immediately reborn inhabitants of hell possessing lesyā [experience] evil [karma]…?” Exactly the same; in this way up to those with formless application. So too the Asurakumāras. In this way up to the Vaimānikas; with the exception that what belongs to each should be stated for that one. In this manner, there is a series of twenty-four places with knowledge-obscuring [karma] as well. Completely thus up to obstructive [karma]. “Truly so, Venerable Sir! Truly so, Venerable Sir!”—[Gautama] up to went about.

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In this manner, by this method, just as the order of uddeśakas is in the Śataka on Binding, exactly so it should be stated here too, up to the penultimate one. The four uddeśakas on the immediately [reborn] have one exposition, and the remaining seven have one [exposition].

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