俱舍論記 13.153

13.153

「不爾以彼至大種為依」者，此即解也。不爾，以彼無漏無表不墮界故，雖無無漏大種，依身起故，隨身大造。又解：不爾，以彼無漏無表不墮界故，雖無無漏身、語，依身起故，隨身大造。又解：通釋二種。此即順成。反難云：於無色界若有無表，應有無表非大種生，謂如彼計無色界地有漏無表繫屬界、地。理應從彼界、地大生，於無色界無四大種，若有無表，應有無表非大種生。復不可言有漏無表同無漏戒以別界、地大種為依。故《婆沙》十七云「問：如雖無無漏大種，而有無漏戒。如是彼界雖無大種，何妨有戒耶？答：無漏戒非大種力故成無漏，但由心力隨無漏心所等起故。有漏戒由大種力繫屬界、地，故不相似。

Regarding "Not so, because those... rely on great elements [of the body]": this is the resolution. Not so, because that unmanifest [form] which is uncontaminated does not belong to any realm; although there are no uncontaminated great elements, because it arises relying on the body, it is shaped by the great elements of the body. Another explanation: Not so, because that unmanifest [form] which is uncontaminated does not belong to any realm; although there are no uncontaminated bodily or vocal [actions], because it arises relying on the body, it is shaped by the great elements of the body. Another explanation: this resolves both. This is an affirmative establishment. The counter-objection states: If there were unmanifest [form] in the Formless Realm, there would be unmanifest [form] not produced from great elements, meaning that according to their assertion, contaminated unmanifest [form] of the plane of the Formless Realm is bound to that realm and plane. Reasonably, it should be produced from the great elements of that realm and plane; but in the Formless Realm there are no four great elements. If there were unmanifest [form], there would be unmanifest [form] not produced from great elements. Furthermore, one cannot say that contaminated unmanifest [form], like uncontaminated morality, relies on the great elements of a different realm or plane. Therefore, Mahāvibhāṣā 17 states: "Question: Just as, although there are no uncontaminated great elements, there is uncontaminated morality, likewise, although that realm has no great elements, what prevents it from having morality? Answer: Uncontaminated morality does not become uncontaminated by the power of great elements; it is merely co-arisen with an uncontaminated mind due to the power of that mind. Contaminated morality is bound to its realm and plane by the power of the great elements; therefore they are not alike."