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俱舍論頌疏論本 8.15

俱舍論頌疏論本 8.15

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Classical Chinese

8.15

問:「此中欲言,為說何法?」答:「略說段食、婬所引貪(解云:婬貪、食貪名之為欲耳也)。如經頌云:『世諸妙境非真欲,真欲謂人分別貪。妙境如本住世間,智者於中已除欲(此頌是佛說,舍利子為人誦,意取貪心名欲,非境也)。』邪命外道便詰舍利子言:『若世妙境非真欲,真欲謂人分別貪。苾芻應名受欲人,起惡分別尋思故(解云:此外道意,取外境為真欲體,不遠而住,難舍利子也)。若世妙境是真欲,真欲非人分別貪。汝師應名受欲人,恒觀可意妙色故。』(解云:此外道師實觀可意色,舍利子報言:『汝師實觀可意色,而不名受欲人,明知真欲是貪,非關外境。』外道於是默然而去也)。」

Question: "In this context, what dharma does the word 'desire' denote?" Answer: "Briefly stated, it denotes the greed induced by solid food and sexual intercourse (explanation: sexual greed and food greed are termed 'desire'). As a sūtra verse states: 'The world's exquisite objects are not true desire; / True desire is a person's conceptual greed. / Exquisite objects remain as they are in the world; / The wise have already eliminated desire regarding them.' (This verse was spoken by the Buddha, and Śāriputra recited it to others; the intention is to take the greedy mind as desire, not the objective objects.) An Ājīvika tīrthika then interrogated Śāriputra, saying: 'If the world's exquisite objects are not true desire, / And true desire is a person's conceptual greed, / Then a monk ought to be named a consumer of desire, / Because he gives rise to bad conceptual thoughts. (Explanation: this tīrthika's intention was to take external objects as the essence of true desire, and staying close by, he challenged Śāriputra.) If the world's exquisite objects are true desire, / And true desire is not a person's conceptual greed, / Then your teacher ought to be named a consumer of desire, / Because he constantly looks upon delightful, exquisite form.' (Explanation: this tīrthika's teacher actually looked upon delightful form; Śāriputra replied, saying: 'Your teacher actually looks upon delightful form, yet is not named a consumer of desire; clearly one knows that true desire is greed, and is not concerned with external objects.' The tīrthika thereupon departed in silence.)"

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