雲門匡真禪師廣錄 3.83

3.83

During a meal, [the Master] asked a monk, "How many cakes are in the bowl? How many bowls are in the cake?"
The monk picked up a cake.
The Master said, "I questioned an old woman."
There was no reply.
Answering on their behalf, he said, "It is not needed."
He also said, at the point of the question, "The assembly is eating their meal."