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Viyahapannatti 19.5: Uddeśaka 5: carama

Viyāhapannatti 19.5

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Ardhamāgadhī Prakrit

Uddeśaka 5: carama

19.5.766

atthi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! caramā vi neraiyā? paramā vi neraiyā? haṃtā atthi|
se nūnaṃ bhaṃte! caramehiṃto neraiehiṃto paramā neraiyā mahākammatarā ceva, mahākiriyatarā ceva, mahassavatarā ceva, mahāveyaṇatarā ceva; paramehiṃto vā neraiehiṃto caramā neraiyā appakammatarā ceva, appakiriyatarā ceva, appassavatarā ceva, appaveyaṇatarā ceva?
haṃtā goyamā! caramehiṃto neraiehiṃto paramā jāva mahāveyaṇatarā ceva, paramehiṃto vā neraiehiṃto caramā neraiyā jāva appaveyaṇatarā ceva|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–jāva appaveyaṇatarā ceva?
goyamā! ṭhitiṃ paḍucca| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai jāva appaveyaṇatarā ceva|
atthi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! caramā vi asurakumārā? paramā vi asurakumārā? evaṃ ceva, navaraṃ–vivarīyaṃ bhāṇiyavvaṃ, paramā appakammā, caramā mahākammā| sesaṃ taṃ ceva jāva thaṇiyakumārā tāva emeva| puḍhavikāiyā jāva manussā ete jahā neraiyā| vāṇamaṃtara-joisiya-vemāṇiyā jahā asurakumārā|

"Are there, Venerable Sir, both lower inhabitants of hell and higher inhabitants of hell?"
"Yes, there are."
"Is it indeed the case, Venerable Sir, that compared to the lower inhabitants of hell, the higher inhabitants of hell have more karma, have more activity, have more inflow, and have more feeling [of pain]; or compared to the higher inhabitants of hell, the lower inhabitants of hell have less karma, have less activity, have less inflow, and have less feeling [of pain]?"
"Yes, Gautama! Compared to the lower inhabitants of hell, the higher [inhabitants of hell] have […] up to more feeling; or compared to the higher inhabitants of hell, the lower inhabitants of hell have […] up to less feeling."
"For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said thus: 'up to have less feeling'?"
"Gautama! In dependence on lifespan duration. For that reason, Gautama, it is said thus: 'up to have less feeling.'"
"Are there, Venerable Sir, both lower Asurakumāras and higher Asurakumāras?"
"Just so, except that it is to be stated in reverse: the higher have less karma, the lower have more karma. The rest is just the same up to the Stanitakumāras; so it is in this way. Earth-bodied beings up to human beings are just like the inhabitants of hell. The Vāṇamantaras, Jyotiṣkas, and Vaimānikas are like the Asurakumāras."

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19.5.767

kativihā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! vedanā pannattā?
goyamā! duvihā vedanā pannattā, taṃ jahā–nidā ya, anidā ya|
neraiyā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ nidāyaṃ vedanaṃ vedeṃti? anidāyaṃ vedanaṃ vedeṃti?
goyamā! nidāyaṃ pi vedanaṃ vedeṃti, anidāyaṃ pi vedanaṃ vedeṃti| jahā pannavaṇāe jāva vemāniyatti|
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|

"Of how many kinds, Venerable Sir, is feeling declared to be?"
"Gautama! Feeling is declared to be of two kinds, namely: manifest and unmanifest."
"Do the inhabitants of hell, Venerable Sir, experience manifest feeling, or do they experience unmanifest feeling?"
"Gautama! They experience manifest feeling as well as unmanifest feeling. As in the Prajñāpanā, up to the Vaimānikas."
"Truly so, Venerable Sir! Truly so, Venerable Sir!"

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