Viyahapannatti 21.1.1.807

21.1.1.807

rāyagihe jāva evaṃ vayāsī– aha bhaṃte! sālī-vīhī-godhūma-java-javajavāṇaṃ–eesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvā mūlattāe vakkamaṃti te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvā kaohiṃto uvavajjaṃti– kiṃ neraiehiṃto uvavajjaṃti? tirikkha-joṇiehiṃto uvavajjaṃti? manussehiṃto uvavajjaṃti? devehiṃto uvavajjaṃti? jahā vakkaṃtīe taheva uvavāo, navaraṃ–devavajjaṃ|
te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvā egasamaeṇaṃ kevatiyā uvavajjaṃti?
goyamā! jahanneṇaṃ ekko vā do vā tinni vā, ukkoseṇaṃ saṃkhejjā vā asaṃkhejjā vā uvavajjaṃti| avahāro jahā uppaluddese|
tesi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvāṇaṃ kemahāliyā sarīrogāhaṇā pannattā?
goyamā! jahanneṇaṃ aṃgulassa asaṃkhejjaibhāgaṃ, ukkoseṇaṃ dhaṇupuhattaṃ|
te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvā nāṇāvaraṇijjassa kammassa kiṃ baṃdhagā? abaṃdhagā? jahā uppaluddese| evaṃ vede vi, udae vi, udīraṇā vi|
te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvā kiṃ kaṇhalessā, nīlalessā, kāulessā chavvīsaṃ bhaṃgā, diṭṭhī jāva iṃdiyā jahā uppaluddese|
te ṇaṃ bhaṃte! sālī-bīhī-godhūma-java-javajavagamūlagajīve kālao kevacciraṃ hoti?
goyamā! jahanneṇaṃ aṃtomuhuttaṃ, ukkoseṇaṃ asaṃkhejjaṃ kālaṃ|
se ṇaṃ bhaṃte! sālī-bīhī-godhūma-java-javajavagamūlagajīve puḍhavījīve, punaravi sālī-bīhī-java-javajavagamūlagajīve kevatiyaṃ kālaṃ sevejjā? kevatiyaṃ kālaṃ gatirāgatiṃ karejjā? evaṃ jahā uppaluddese| eeṇaṃ abhilāveṇaṃ jāva manussajīve, āhāro jahā uppaluddese, ṭhitī jahanneṇaṃ aṃtomuhuttaṃ, ukkoseṇaṃ vāsapuhattaṃ, samugghāyā, samohayā, uvvaṭṭaṇā ya jahā uppaluddese|
aha bhaṃte! savvapāṇā jāva savvasattā sālī-vīhī-godhūma-java-javajavamūlagajīvattāe uvavannapuvvā?
haṃtā goyamā! asatiṃ aduvā anaṃtakhutto|
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|

In Rājagṛha up to: he spoke thus: "Now, Venerable Sir, the souls that transition into the roots of these, namely, sāli rice, vīhi rice, godhūma wheat, java barley, and javajava—from where, Venerable Sir, do those souls take birth? Do they take birth from hell-beings? Do they take birth from animals? Do they take birth from humans? Do they take birth from gods?" As in the transition section, so is the rebirth, except excluding gods. "Venerable Sir, how many of those souls take birth in a single moment?" "Gautama, at minimum one, two, or three; at maximum, numerable or innumerable take birth." Removal is as in the Utpala uddeśaka. "Venerable Sir, how great is the physical embodiment declared to be for those souls?" "Gautama, at minimum an innumerable fraction of an aṅgula; at maximum, a few dhanuṣas." "Venerable Sir, are those souls binders of knowledge-obscuring karma, or non-binders?" As in the Utpala uddeśaka. So also for experiencing, rise, and premature activation. "Venerable Sir, do those souls have black lesyā, blue lesyā, or grey lesyā?" There are twenty-six alternatives; worldview up to sense organs are as in the Utpala uddeśaka. "Venerable Sir, how long does the life of those souls in the root of sāli, vīhi, godhūma, java, and javajavaka last in terms of time?" "Gautama, at minimum an antarmuhūrta; at maximum, an innumerable time." "Venerable Sir, how long would that soul in the root of sāli, vīhi, godhūma, java, and javajavaka, [having become] an earth-body soul, dwell again as a soul in the root of sāli, vīhi, java, and javajavaka? How long would it make going and coming?" Thus as in the Utpala uddeśaka. In this manner of expression, up to human soul; nourishment is as in the Utpala uddeśaka; lifespan duration is at minimum an antarmuhūrta, at maximum a few years; samudghātas, experiencing at death, and rising from death are as in the Utpala uddeśaka. "Now, Venerable Sir, have all breath-possessing beings up to all living beings previously been born as souls in the roots of sāli, vīhi, godhūma, java, and javajava?" "Yes, Gautama, many times or infinitely many times." "So it is, Venerable Sir! So it is, Venerable Sir!"