Viyahapannatti 9.31.445

9.31.445

At Rājagṛha, and so on, he spoke thus: “Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin, or from a kevalin’s male lay follower, or from a kevalin’s female lay follower, or from a kevalin’s male adherent, or from a kevalin’s female adherent, or from an adherent of that party, or from a male lay follower of that party, or from a female lay follower of that party, or from a male adherent of that party, or from a female adherent of that party, could one attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin?”
“Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin, and someone may not attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin.”
“Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not attain by hearing’?”
“Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of knowledge-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not attain by hearing.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one understand pure enlightenment?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may understand pure enlightenment, and someone may not understand pure enlightenment.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not understand pure enlightenment’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of perception-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may understand pure enlightenment; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of perception-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not understand pure enlightenment. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not understand pure enlightenment.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one, having become completely tonsured, renounce from the household state into homelessness?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone, having become completely tonsured, may renounce from the household state into homelessness, and someone, having become completely tonsured, may not renounce from the household state into homelessness.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, having become completely tonsured, may not renounce from the household state into homelessness’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of religious-hindering karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, having become completely tonsured, may renounce from the household state into homelessness; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of religious-hindering karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, having become completely tonsured, may not renounce from the household state into homelessness. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, having become completely tonsured, may not renounce from the household state into homelessness.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one dwell in pure celibacy?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may dwell in pure celibacy, and someone may not dwell in pure celibacy.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not dwell in pure celibacy’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of conduct-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may dwell in pure celibacy; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of conduct-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not dwell in pure celibacy. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not dwell in pure celibacy.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one restrain oneself with pure self-restraint?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may restrain oneself with pure self-restraint, and someone may not restrain oneself with pure self-restraint.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not restrain oneself with pure self-restraint’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of effort-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may restrain oneself with pure self-restraint; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of effort-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not restrain oneself with pure self-restraint. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not restrain oneself with pure self-restraint.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one restrain oneself with pure stoppage?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may restrain oneself with pure stoppage, and someone may not restrain oneself with pure stoppage.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not restrain oneself with pure stoppage’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of resolve-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may restrain oneself with pure stoppage; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of resolve-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not restrain oneself with pure stoppage. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not restrain oneself with pure stoppage.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one generate pure sensory knowledge?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may generate pure sensory knowledge, and someone may not generate pure sensory knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure sensory knowledge’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of sensory-knowledge-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may generate pure sensory knowledge; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of sensory-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not generate pure sensory knowledge. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure sensory knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one generate pure scriptural knowledge?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may generate pure scriptural knowledge, and someone may not generate pure scriptural knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure scriptural knowledge’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of scriptural-knowledge-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may generate pure scriptural knowledge; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of scriptural-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not generate pure scriptural knowledge. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure scriptural knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one generate pure clairvoyant knowledge?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may generate pure clairvoyant knowledge, and someone may not generate pure clairvoyant knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure clairvoyant knowledge’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of clairvoyant-knowledge-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may generate pure clairvoyant knowledge; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of clairvoyant-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not generate pure clairvoyant knowledge. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure clairvoyant knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one generate pure mind-reading knowledge?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may generate pure mind-reading knowledge, and someone may not generate pure mind-reading knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure mind-reading knowledge’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of mind-reading-knowledge-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may generate pure mind-reading knowledge; he by whom destruction-cum-suppression of mind-reading-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not generate pure mind-reading knowledge. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate pure mind-reading knowledge.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one generate omniscience?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, someone may generate omniscience, and someone may not generate omniscience.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate omniscience’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom destruction of omniscience-obscuring karmas has been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may generate omniscience; he by whom destruction of omniscience-obscuring karmas has not been effected, he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not generate omniscience. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: ‘without hearing, up to, may not generate omniscience.’
‘Venerable Sir, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, could one: (1) attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin, (2) understand pure enlightenment, (3) having become completely tonsured, renounce from the household state into homelessness, (4) dwell in pure celibacy, (5) restrain oneself with pure self-restraint, (6) restrain oneself with pure stoppage, (7) generate pure sensory knowledge, (8) generate pure scriptural knowledge, (9) generate pure clairvoyant knowledge, (10) generate pure mind-reading knowledge, (11) generate omniscience?’
‘Gautama, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party: (1) someone may attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin, and someone may not attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin; (2) someone may understand pure enlightenment, and someone may not understand pure enlightenment; (3) someone, having become completely tonsured, may renounce from the household state into homelessness, and someone, having become completely tonsured, may not renounce from the household state into homelessness; (4) someone may dwell in pure celibacy, and someone may not dwell in pure celibacy; (5) someone may restrain oneself with pure self-restraint, and someone may not restrain oneself with pure self-restraint; (6) someone may restrain oneself with pure stoppage, and someone may not restrain oneself with pure stoppage; (7) someone may generate pure sensory knowledge, and someone may not generate pure sensory knowledge; (8) someone may generate pure scriptural knowledge, and someone may not generate pure scriptural knowledge; (9) someone may generate pure clairvoyant knowledge, and someone may not generate pure clairvoyant knowledge; (10) someone may generate pure mind-reading knowledge, and someone may not generate pure mind-reading knowledge; (11) someone may generate omniscience, and someone may not generate omniscience.’
‘Venerable Sir, for what reason is it said thus: ‘without hearing, just that, up to, someone may generate omniscience, and someone may not generate omniscience’?’
‘Gautama, he by whom (1) destruction-cum-suppression of knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (2) destruction-cum-suppression of perception-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (3) destruction-cum-suppression of religious-hindering karmas has not been effected, (4) destruction-cum-suppression of conduct-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (5) destruction-cum-suppression of effort-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (6) destruction-cum-suppression of resolve-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (7) destruction-cum-suppression of sensory-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (8) destruction-cum-suppression of scriptural-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (9) destruction-cum-suppression of clairvoyant-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (10) destruction-cum-suppression of mind-reading-knowledge-obscuring karmas has not been effected, (11) destruction of omniscience-obscuring karmas has not been effected—he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may not attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin, may not understand pure enlightenment, up to may not generate omniscience.
He by whom destruction-cum-suppression of knowledge-obscuring karmas has been effected, by whom destruction-cum-suppression of perception-obscuring karmas has been effected, by whom destruction-cum-suppression of religious-hindering karmas has been effected, thus up to he by whom destruction of omniscience-obscuring karmas has been effected—he, without hearing from a kevalin or up to a female adherent of that party, may attain the hearing of the Dharma taught by a kevalin, may understand pure enlightenment, up to may generate omniscience.’”