明覺禪師語錄 3.31

3.31

舉：「本仁和尚示眾云：『尋常不欲向聲前句後鼓弄人家男女。何故？且聲不是聲，色不是色。』時有僧問：『如何是聲不是聲？』仁云：『喚作色得麼？』云：『如何是色不是色？』仁云：『喚作聲得麼？』僧禮拜，仁云：『且道，為汝說？答汝話？若人辯得，有箇入處。』」師云：「本仁也甚奇怪，要且貪觀天上，既非聲前句後，且作麼生入？」

He cited: "Upādhyāya Benren addressed the assembly, saying: 'Usually I do not wish to manipulate other people's sons and daughters before sound and after phrase. Why is this? Furthermore, sound is not sound, and form is not form.' At that time a monk asked, 'How is it that sound is not sound?' Ren said, 'Can it be called form?' [The monk] said, 'How is it that form is not form?' Ren said, 'Can it be called sound?' The monk bowed. Ren said, 'Now tell me: did I explain for you, or did I answer your words? If someone can discern this, they have an entry point.'" The Master said, "Benren was also quite extraordinary; yet coveting a look at the heavens, since it is not 'before sound and after phrase,' just how does one enter?"