Viyahapannatti 16.8.686

16.8.686

deve ṇaṃ bhaṃte! mahiḍḍhie jāva mahesakkhe logaṃte ṭhiccā pabhū alogaṃsi hatthaṃ vā pāyaṃ vā bāhaṃ vā ūruṃ vā āuṃṭāve-ttae vā pasārettae vā? no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–deve ṇaṃ mahiḍḍhie jāva mahesakkhe logaṃte ṭhiccā no pabhū alogaṃsi hatthaṃ vā pāyaṃ vā bāhaṃ vā ūruṃ vā āuṃṭāvettae vā pasārettae vā?
goyamā! jīvāṇaṃ āhārovaciyā poggalā, boṃdiciyā poggalā, kalevaraciyā poggalā| poggalāmeva eppa jīvāṇa ya ajīvāṇa ya gatipariyāe āhijjai| aloe ṇaṃ nevatthi jīvā, nevatthi poggalā| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai–deve mahiḍḍhie jāva mahesakkhe logaṃte ṭhiccā no pabhū ālogaṃsi hatthaṃ vā pāyaṃ vā bāhaṃ vā ūruṃ vā āuṃṭāvettae vā pasārettae vā|
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|

"Venerable Sir, is a deity of great power, up to of great majesty, standing at the edge of the world, capable of bending or extending his hand, or foot, or arm, or thigh into the non-world (aloka)?"
"This meaning is not competent."
"For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said: 'A deity of great power, up to of great majesty, standing at the edge of the world, is not capable of bending or extending his hand, or foot, or arm, or thigh into the non-world'?"
"Gautama! For jīvas, there are pudgalas accumulated by nourishment, pudgalas accumulated in the body, pudgalas accumulated in the physical frame. The mode of motion of jīvas and ajīvas is declared only in dependence upon pudgalas. In the non-world there are neither jīvas nor pudgalas. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: 'A deity of great power, up to of great majesty, standing at the edge of the world, is not capable of bending or extending his hand, or foot, or arm, or thigh into the non-world.'"
"Truly so, Venerable Sir! Truly so, Venerable Sir!"