Viyahapannatti 18.8.751

18.8.751

chaumatthe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ kiṃ jāṇati-pāsati? udāhu na jāṇati na pāsati?
goyamā! atthegatie jāṇati na pāsati, atthegatie na jāṇati na pāsati|
chaumatthe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! manusse dupaesiyaṃ khaṃdhaṃ kiṃ jāṇati-pāsati? udāhu na jāṇati na pāsati?
goyamā! atthegatie jāṇati na pāsati, atthegatie na jāṇati na pāsati| evaṃ jāva asaṃkhejja-paesiyaṃ|
chaumatthe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! manusse anaṃtapaesiyaṃ khaṃdhaṃ kiṃ jāṇati-pāsati? udāhu na jāṇati na pāsati?
goyamā! atthegatie jāṇati-pāsati, atthegatie jāṇati na pāsati, atthegatie na jāṇati pāsati, atthegatie na jāṇati na pāsati|
āhohie ṇaṃ bhaṃte! manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ kiṃ jāṇati-pāsati? udāhu na jāṇati na pāsati? jahā chaumatthe evaṃ āhohie vi jāva anaṃtapaesiyaṃ|
paramāhohie ṇaṃ bhaṃte! manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ jaṃ samayaṃ jāṇati taṃ samayaṃ pāsati? jaṃ samayaṃ pāsati taṃ samayaṃ jāṇati?
no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–paramāhohie ṇaṃ manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ jaṃ samayaṃ jāṇati no taṃ samayaṃ pāsati? jaṃ samayaṃ pāsati no taṃ samayaṃ jāṇati?
goyamā! sāgāre se nāṇe bhavai, aṇāgāre se daṃsaṇe bhavai| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai–paramāhohie ṇaṃ manusse paramāṇu-poggalaṃ jaṃ samayaṃ jāṇati no taṃ samayaṃ pāsati, jaṃ samayaṃ pāsati no taṃ samayaṃ jāṇati| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapadesiyaṃ|
kevalī ṇaṃ bhaṃte! manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ jaṃ samayaṃ jāṇati taṃ samayaṃ pāsati? jaṃ samayaṃ pāsati taṃ samayaṃ jāṇati?
no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–kevalī ṇaṃ manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ jaṃ samayaṃ jāṇati no taṃ samayaṃ pāsati? jaṃ samayaṃ pāsati no taṃ samayaṃ jāṇati?
goyamā! sāgāre se nāṇe bhavai, aṇāgāre se daṃsaṇe bhavai| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai– kevalī ṇaṃ manusse paramāṇupoggalaṃ jaṃ samayaṃ jāṇati no taṃ samayaṃ pāsati, jaṃ samayaṃ pāsati no taṃ samayaṃ jāṇati| evaṃ jāva anaṃtapaesiyaṃ|
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|

"Venerable Sir! Does an unliberated human being know and see an ultimate atom of matter? Or does he neither know nor see [it]?"
"Gautama! One [such human being] knows but does not see; another neither knows nor sees."
"Venerable Sir! Does an unliberated human being know and see a two-space-point aggregate? Or does he neither know nor see [it]?"
"Gautama! One knows but does not see; another neither knows nor sees. In this manner up to an aggregate of innumerable space-points."
"Venerable Sir! Does an unliberated human being know and see an aggregate of infinite space-points? Or does he neither know nor see [it]?"
"Gautama! One knows and sees; another knows but does not see; another does not know but sees; another neither knows nor sees."
"Venerable Sir! Does a human being possessing lower clairvoyance know and see an ultimate atom of matter? Or does he neither know nor see [it]?"
"As for the unliberated [human], so also for one possessing lower clairvoyance, up to an aggregate of infinite space-points."
"Venerable Sir! Does a human being possessing supreme clairvoyance see at the very time that he knows an ultimate atom of matter? Does he know at the very time that he sees?"
"This meaning is not valid."
"Venerable Sir! For what reason is it said: 'A human being possessing supreme clairvoyance does not see at the very time that he knows an ultimate atom of matter, and does not know at the very time that he sees'?"
"Gautama! His knowledge has determinate form, while his intuition has indeterminate form. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: 'A human being possessing supreme clairvoyance does not see at the very time that he knows an ultimate atom of matter, and does not know at the very time that he sees.' In this manner up to [an aggregate of] infinite space-points."
"Venerable Sir! Does an omniscient human being see at the very time that he knows an ultimate atom of matter? Does he know at the very time that he sees?"
"This meaning is not valid."
"Venerable Sir! For what reason is it said: 'An omniscient human being does not see at the very time that he knows an ultimate atom of matter, and does not know at the very time that he sees'?"
"Gautama! His knowledge has determinate form, while his intuition has indeterminate form. For that reason, Gautama, it is said: 'An omniscient human being does not see at the very time that he knows an ultimate atom of matter, and does not know at the very time that he sees.' In this manner up to [an aggregate of] infinite space-points."
"That is so, Venerable Sir! That is so, Venerable Sir!"