Viyahapannatti 6.3.282

6.3.282

vatthassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! poggalovacae kiṃ sādīe sapajjavasie? sādīe apajjavasie? anādīe sapajjavasie? anādīe apajjavasie?
goyamā! vatthassa ṇaṃ poggalovacae sādīe sapajjavasie, no sādīe apajjavasie, no anādīe sapajjavasie, no anādīe apajjavasie|
jahā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! vatthassa poggalovacae sādīe sapajjavasie, no sādīe apajjavasie, no anādīe sapajjavasie, no anādīe apajjavasie, tahā ṇaṃ jīvāṇaṃ kammovacae pucchā|
goyamā! atthegatiyāṇaṃ jīvāṇaṃ kammovacae sādīe sapajjavasie, atthegatiyāṇaṃ anādīe sapajjavasie, atthegatiyāṇaṃ anādīe apajjavasie, no ceva ṇaṃ jīvāṇaṃ kammovacae sādīe apajjavasie|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ? goyamā! iriyāvahiyabaṃdhayassa kammovacae sādīe sapajjavasie, bhavasiddhiyassa kammovacae anādīe sapajjavasie, abhavasiddhiyassa kammovacae anādīe apajjavasie| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ|
vatthe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kiṃ sādīe sapajjavasie–caubhaṃgo?
goyamā! vatthe sādīe sapajjavasie, avasesā tinni vi paḍiseheyavvā|
jahā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! vatthe sādīe sapajjavasie, no sādīe apajjavasie, no anādīe sapajjavasie, no anādīe apajjavasie, tahā ṇaṃ jīvā kiṃ sādīyā sapajjavasiyā? caubhaṃgo–pucchā|
goyamā! atthegatiyā sādīyā sapajjavasiyā–cattāri vi bhāṇiyavvā|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ? goyamā! neratiya-tirikkhajoṇiya-manussa-devā gatirāgatiṃ paḍucca sādīyā sapajjavasiyā, siddhā gatiṃ paḍucca sādīyā apajjavasiyā, bhavasiddhiyā laddhiṃ paḍucca anādīyā sapajjavasiyā, abhavasiddhiyā saṃsāraṃ paḍucca anādīyā apajjavasiyā| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ|

"Venerable Sir! Is the accumulation of pudgala on a cloth with beginning and with end? With beginning and without end? Without beginning and with end? Without beginning and without end?"
"Gautama! The accumulation of pudgala on a cloth is with beginning and with end; it is not with beginning and without end, not without beginning and with end, nor without beginning and without end."
"Venerable Sir! Just as the accumulation of pudgala on a cloth is with beginning and with end, not with beginning and without end, not without beginning and with end, nor without beginning and without end, likewise is the question regarding the accumulation of karma in jīvas."
"Gautama! The accumulation of karma in some jīvas is with beginning and with end, in some it is without beginning and with end, in some it is without beginning and without end; but never is the accumulation of karma in jīvas with beginning and without end."
"For what reason, [Venerable Sir]?"
"Gautama! For one who binds [karma] through transient movement (airyāpathika), the accumulation of karma is with beginning and with end; for one capable of liberation (bhavasiddhika), the accumulation of karma is without beginning and with end; for one incapable of liberation (abhavasiddhika), the accumulation of karma is without beginning and without end. For that reason, [Gautama]."
"Venerable Sir! Is a cloth with beginning and with end—[is there] the fourfold alternative?"
"Gautama! A cloth is with beginning and with end; the remaining three [alternatives] are to be negated."
"Venerable Sir! Just as a cloth is with beginning and with end, not with beginning and without end, not without beginning and with end, nor without beginning and without end, likewise are jīvas with beginning and with end? The fourfold alternative—the question."
"Gautama! Some are with beginning and with end—all four are to be stated."
"For what reason, [Venerable Sir]?"
"Gautama! Inhabitants of hell, animals, humans, and gods are with beginning and with end in terms of their migration and transmigration; liberated souls are with beginning and without end in terms of [their] state [of liberation]; those capable of liberation are without beginning and with end in terms of [their] capacity; those incapable of liberation are without beginning and without end in terms of saṃsāra. For that reason, [Gautama]."