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Viyahapannatti 13.4: Uddeśaka 4: pṛthvī

Viyāhapannatti 13.4

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Ardhamāgadhī Prakrit

Uddeśaka 4: pṛthvī

13.4.569

kati ṇaṃ bhaṃte! puḍhavīo pannattāo?
goyamā! satta puḍhavīo pannattāo, taṃ jahā–rayaṇappabhā jāva ahesattamā|
ahesattamāe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! puḍhavīe paṃca anuttarā mahatimahālayā mahānirayā pannattā, taṃ jahā–kāle, mahākāle, rorue, mahārorue, apaiṭṭhāṇe| te ṇaṃ naragā chaṭṭhīe tamāe puḍhavīe naraehiṃto mahattarā ceva, mahāvitthiṇṇatarā ceva, mahogāsatarā ceva, mahāpairikkatarā ceva, no tahā mahappavesaṇatarā ceva, āiṇṇatarā ceva, āulatarā ceva, anomānatarā ceva| tesu ṇaṃ naraesu neraiyā chaṭṭhīe tamāe puḍhavīe neraiehiṃto mahākammatarā ceva, mahākiriyattarā ceva, mahāsavatarā ceva, mahāvedaṇatarā ceva, no tahā appaka-mmatarā ceva, appakiriyatarā ceva, appāsavatarā ceva, appavedaṇatarā ceva, appiḍḍhiyatarā ceva, appajutiyatarā ceva, no tahā mahiḍḍhiyatarā ceva, mahajjutiyatarā ceva|
chaṭṭhīe ṇaṃ tamāe puḍhavīe ege paṃcūṇe nirayāvāsasayasahasse pannatte| te ṇaṃ naragā ahesattamāe puḍhavīe naraehiṃto no tahā maha-ttarā ceva, mahāvitthiṇṇatarā ceva, mahogāsatarā ceva, mahāpairikkatarā ceva, mahappavesaṇatarā ceva, āiṇṇatarā ceva, āulatarā ceva, aṇomāṇatarā ceva| tesu ṇaṃ naraesu neraiyā ahesattamāe puḍhavīe neraiehiṃto appakammatarā ceva, appakiriyatarā ceva, appāsavatarā ceva, appavedaṇatarā ceva; no tahā mahākammatarā ceva, mahākiriyatarā ceva, mahāsavatarā ceva, mahāvedaṇatarā ceva; mahiḍḍhiyatarā ceva, mahajjuiyatarā ceva; no tahā appiḍḍhiyatarā ceva, appajuiyatarā ceva|
chaṭṭhīe ṇaṃ tamāe puḍhavīe naragā paṃcamāe dhūmappabhāe puḍhavīe naraehiṃto mahattarā ceva, mahāvitthiṇṇatarā ceva, mahogāsatarā ceva, mahāpairikkatarā ceva; no tahā mahappavesaṇatarā ceva, āiṇṇatarā ceva, āulatarā ceva, aṇomāṇatarā ceva| tesu ṇaṃ naraesu neraiyā paṃcamāe dhūmappabhāe puḍhavīe neraiehiṃto mahākammatarā ceva, mahākiriyatarā ceva, mahāsavatarā ceva, mahāvedaṇatarā ceva; no tahā appakammatarā ceva, appakiriyatarā ceva, appāsavatarā ceva, appavedaṇatarā ceva; appiḍḍhiyatarā ceva, appajutiyatarā ceva; no tahā mahaḍḍhiyatarā ceva, mahajjutiyatarā ceva|
paṃcamāe ṇaṃ dhūmappabhāe puḍhavīe tinni nirayāvāsasayasahassā pannattā| evaṃ jahā chaṭṭhīe bhaṇiyā evaṃ satta vi puḍhavīo paropparaṃ bhaṇṇaṃti jāva rayaṇappabhaṃti jāva no tahā mahaḍḍhiyatarā ceva, appajutiyatarā ceva|

"How many earths, Venerable Sir, are declared?"
"Gautama! Seven earths are declared, namely: Ratnaprabhā down to the seventh below."
"Venerable Sir! On the seventh earth below, five unsurpassed, exceedingly large great hells are declared, namely: Kāla, Mahākāla, Roruka, Mahāroruka, and Apratiṣṭhāna. Are those hells larger, more extensive, of greater space, and with more vacant space than the hells of the sixth earth, Tamā, but not with greater entrance, nor more crowded, nor more turbulent, nor with less space? Are the inhabitants of hell in those hells burdened with more karma, more activity, more karmic influx, and more suffering than the inhabitants of hell of the sixth earth, Tamā, and not with less karma, less activity, less karmic influx, and less suffering; and having less supernatural power and less radiance, and not having greater supernatural power and greater radiance?"
"[Gautama! Yes, they are.]"
"On the sixth earth, Tamā, ninety-nine thousand nine hundred and ninety-five hell abodes are declared. Are those hells not larger, more extensive, of greater space, and with more vacant space than the hells of the seventh earth below, [yet] with greater entrance, more crowded, more turbulent, and with less space? Are the inhabitants of hell in those hells burdened with less karma, less activity, less karmic influx, and less suffering than the inhabitants of hell of the seventh earth below; and not with more karma, more activity, more karmic influx, and more suffering; having greater supernatural power and greater radiance; and not having less supernatural power and less radiance?"
"[Gautama! Yes, they are.]"
"Are the hells on the sixth earth, Tamā, larger, more extensive, of greater space, and with more vacant space than the hells of the fifth earth, Dhūmaprabhā; and not with greater entrance, nor more crowded, nor more turbulent, nor with less space? Are the inhabitants of hell in those hells burdened with more karma, more activity, more karmic influx, and more suffering than the inhabitants of hell of the fifth earth, Dhūmaprabhā; and not with less karma, less activity, less karmic influx, and less suffering; having less supernatural power and less radiance; and not having greater supernatural power and greater radiance?"
"[Gautama! Yes, they are.]"
"On the fifth earth, Dhūmaprabhā, three hundred thousand hell abodes are declared." Just as was stated for the sixth, so should all seven earths be stated in relation to one another down to Ratnaprabhā, down to: "not having greater supernatural power and having less radiance."

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13.4.570

rayaṇappabhāpuḍhavineraiyā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kerisayaṃ puḍhaviphāsaṃ paccaṇubbhavamāṇā viharaṃti?
goyamā! aniṭṭhaṃ jāva amaṇāmaṃ| evaṃ jāva ahesattamapuḍhavineraiyā| evaṃ āuphāsaṃ, evaṃ jāva vaṇassaiphāsaṃ|

"Venerable Sir! Experiencing what kind of touch of earth do the inhabitants of hell of the Ratnaprabhā earth live?"
"Gautama! Undesirable up to disagreeable. In this way, down to the inhabitants of hell of the seventh earth below. Likewise for the touch of water, and so on down to the touch of vegetation."

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13.4.571

imā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! rayaṇappabhāpuḍhavī doccaṃ sakkarappabhaṃ puḍhaviṃ paṇihāya savvamahaṃtiyā bāhalleṇaṃ, savvakhuḍḍiyā savvaṃtesu?
haṃtā goyamā! imā ṇaṃ rayaṇappabhāpuḍhavī doccaṃ puḍhaviṃ paṇihāya jāva savvakhuḍḍiyā savvaṃtesu|
doccā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! puḍhavī taccaṃ puḍhaviṃ paṇihāya savvamahaṃtiyā bāhalleṇaṃ–pucchā|
haṃtā goyamā! doccā ṇaṃ puḍhavī jāva savvakhuḍḍiyā savvaṃtesu| evaṃ eeṇaṃ abhilāveṇaṃ jāva chaṭṭhiyā puḍhavī ahesattamaṃ puḍhaviṃ paṇihāya jāva savvakhuḍḍiyā savvaṃtesu|

"Venerable Sir! In comparison to the second earth, Śarkarāprabhā, is this Ratnaprabhā earth greatest in thickness and smallest on all sides?"
"Yes, Gautama! In comparison to the second earth, this Ratnaprabhā earth is greatest [in thickness] down to smallest on all sides."
"Venerable Sir! In comparison to the third earth, is the second earth greatest in thickness—[the inquiry as above]?"
"Yes, Gautama! The second earth is [...] down to smallest on all sides. With this phrasing, [it should be continued] down to: the sixth earth in comparison to the seventh earth below is [...] down to smallest on all sides."

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13.4.572

imīse ṇaṃ bhaṃte! rayaṇappabhāe puḍhavīe nirayaparisāmaṃtesu je puḍhavikkāiyā jāva vaṇassaikāiyā teṇaṃ jīvā mahākammatarā ceva, mahākiriyatarā ceva, mahāsavatarā ceva, mahāvedanatarā ceva?
haṃtā goyamā! imīse ṇaṃ rayaṇappabhāe puḍhavīe nirayaparisāmaṃtesu taṃ ceva jāva mahāvedanatarā ceva| evaṃ jāva ahesattamā|

"Venerable Sir! Are those living beings, from earth-bodied souls down to plant-bodied souls, in the vicinity of the hells of this Ratnaprabhā earth, burdened with more karma, more activity, more karmic influx, and more suffering?"
"Yes, Gautama! In the vicinity of the hells of this Ratnaprabhā earth, they are indeed burdened with the same down to more suffering. And so on, down to the seventh earth below."

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13.4.573

kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! logassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte?
goyamā! imīse rayaṇappabhāe puḍhavīe ovāsaṃtarassa asaṃkhejjaibhāgaṃ ogāhettā, ettha ṇaṃ logassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte|
kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ahelogassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte?
goyamā! cautthīe paṃkappabhāe puḍhavīe ovāsaṃtarassa sātiregaṃ addhaṃ ogāhettā, ettha ṇaṃ ahelogassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte|
kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! uḍḍhalogassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte?
goyamā! uppiṃ saṇaṃkumāra-māhiṃdāṇaṃ kappāṇaṃ heṭṭhiṃ baṃbhaloe kappe riṭṭhavimāne patthaḍe, ettha ṇaṃ uḍḍhalogassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte
kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! tiriyalogassa āyāmamajjhe pannatte?
goyamā! jaṃbuddīve dīve maṃdarassa pavvayassa bahumajjhadesabhāe imīse rayaṇappabhāe puḍhavīe uvarima-heṭṭhillesu khuḍḍagapayaresu, ettha ṇaṃ tiriyalogamajjhe aṭṭhapaesie ruyae pannatte, jao ṇaṃ imāo dasa disāo pavahaṃti, taṃ jahā–1. puratthimā 2. puratthimadāhiṇā 3. dāhiṇā 4. dāhiṇapaccatthimā 5. paccatthimā 6. paccatthimuttarā 7. uttarā 8. uttarapuratthimā 9. uḍḍhā 1. aho|
eyāsi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! dasaṇhaṃ disāṇaṃ kati nāmadhejjā pannattā?
goyamā! dasa nāmadhejjā pannattā, taṃ jahā–
iṃdā aggeyī jamā ya, neraī vāruṇī ya vāyavvā | somā īsānī yā, vimalā ya tamā ya boddhavvā ||

"Where, Venerable Sir, is the center of the length of the universe declared to be?"
"Gautama! Penetrating an innumerable part of the intermediate space of this Ratnaprabhā earth, right there the center of the length of the universe is declared to be."
"Where, Venerable Sir, is the center of the length of the lower world declared to be?"
"Gautama! Penetrating slightly more than half of the intermediate space of the fourth earth, Paṅkaprabhā, right there the center of the length of the lower world is declared to be."
"Where, Venerable Sir, is the center of the length of the upper world declared to be?"
"Gautama! Above the Sanatkumāra and Māhendra heavens and below the Brahmaloka heaven, in the Riṣṭa celestial abode layer, right there the center of the length of the upper world is declared to be."
"Where, Venerable Sir, is the center of the length of the transverse world declared to be?"
"Gautama! In the continent of Jambūdvīpa, at the very center of Mount Mandara, in the upper and lower small tiers of this Ratnaprabhā earth, right there at the center of the transverse world an eight-spatial-unit central space point cluster (ruyaga) is declared to be, from which these ten directions flow forth, namely: 1. East, 2. South-East, 3. South, 4. South-West, 5. West, 6. North-West, 7. North, 8. North-East, 9. Up, 10. Down."
"How many names, Venerable Sir, are declared for these ten directions?"
"Gautama! Ten names are declared, namely:
Indrā, Āgneyī, and Yāmyā; Nairṛtī, Vāruṇī, and Vāyavyā; / Somā and Īśānī; and Vimalā and Tamā are to be known."

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13.4.574

iṃdā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! disā kimādīyā, kiṃpavahā, katipadesādīyā, katipadesuttarā, katipadesiyā, kiṃpajjavasiyā, kiṃsaṃṭhiyā pannattā?
goyamā! iṃdā ṇaṃ disā ruyagādīyā, ruyagappavahā, dupaesādīyā, dupaesuttarā, logaṃ paḍucca asaṃkhejja-paesiyā, alogaṃ paḍucca anaṃtapaesiyā, logaṃ paḍucca sādīyā sapajjavasiyā, alogaṃ paḍucca sādīyā apajjavasiyā, logaṃ paḍucca muravasaṃṭhiyā, alogaṃ paḍucca sagaḍuddhisaṃṭhiyā pannattā|
aggeyī ṇaṃ bhaṃte! disā kimādīyā, kiṃpavahā, katipaesādīyā, katipaesavitthiṇṇā, katipaesiyā, kiṃpajjavasiyā, kiṃsaṃṭhiyā pannattā?
goyamā! aggeyī ṇaṃ disā ruyagādīyā, ruyagappavahā, egapaesādīyā, egapaesavitthiṇṇā–anuttarā, logaṃ paḍucca asaṃkhejjapaesiyā alogaṃ paḍucca anaṃtapaesiyā, logaṃ paḍucca sādīyā sapajjavasiyā, alogaṃ paḍucca sādīyā apajjavasiyā, chinnamuttāvalisaṃṭhiyā pannattā| jamā jahā iṃdā, neraī jahā aggeyī| evaṃ jahā iṃdā tahā disāo cattāri, jahā aggeī tahā cattāri vidisāo
vimalā ṇaṃ bhaṃte! disā kimādīyā, kiṃpavahā, katipaesādīyā, katipaesavitthiṇṇā, katipaesiyā, kiṃpajjavasiyā, kiṃsaṃṭhiyā pannattā?
goyamā! vimalā ṇaṃ disā ruyagādīyā, ruyagappavahā, cauppaesādīyā, dupaesavitthiṇṇā–anuttarā, logaṃ paḍucca asaṃkhejjapaesiyā, alogaṃ paḍucca anaṃtapaesiyā, logaṃ paḍucca sādīyā sapajjavasiyā, alogaṃ paḍucca sādīyā apajjavasiyā, ruyagasaṃṭhiyā pannattā| evaṃ tamā vi|

“Venerable Sir! What is the beginning of the Indrī direction? What is its source? How many spatial units are at its beginning? By how many spatial units does it increase? Of how many spatial units does it consist? What is its end? What is its shape declared to be?”
“Gautama! The Indrī direction has Rucaka as its beginning; it originates from Rucaka. It has two spatial units at its beginning; it increases by two spatial units [in succession]. With respect to the world, it consists of an incalculable number of spatial units; with respect to the non-world, it consists of an infinite number of spatial units. With respect to the world, it has a beginning and an end; with respect to the non-world, it has a beginning and no end. With respect to the world, it has the shape of a mṛdaṅga drum (muraja); with respect to the non-world, it has the shape of an upright cart-shaft.
“Venerable Sir! What is the beginning of the Āgneyī direction? What is its source? How many spatial units are at its beginning? How wide is it in spatial units? Of how many spatial units does it consist? What is its end? What is its shape declared to be?”
“Gautama! The Āgneyī direction has Rucaka as its beginning; it originates from Rucaka. It has one spatial unit at its beginning; it is one spatial unit wide and does not increase. With respect to the world, it consists of an incalculable number of spatial units; with respect to the non-world, it consists of an infinite number of spatial units. With respect to the world, it has a beginning and an end; with respect to the non-world, it has a beginning and no end. It is declared to have the shape of a broken pearl necklace. The Yāmyā direction is like the Indrī; the Nairṛtī is like the Āgneyī. In this way, the four cardinal directions are like the Indrī, and the four intermediate directions are like the Āgneyī.
“Venerable Sir! What is the beginning of the Vimalā direction? What is its source? How many spatial units are at its beginning? How wide is it in spatial units? Of how many spatial units does it consist? What is its end? What is its shape declared to be?”
“Gautama! The Vimalā direction has Rucaka as its beginning; it originates from Rucaka. It has four spatial units at its beginning; it is two spatial units wide and does not increase. With respect to the world, it consists of an incalculable number of spatial units; with respect to the non-world, it consists of an infinite number of spatial units. With respect to the world, it has a beginning and an end; with respect to the non-world, it has a beginning and no end. It is declared to have the shape of a Rucaka. Likewise also the Tamā direction.”

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13.4.575

kimiyaṃ bhaṃte! loetti pavuccai?
goyamā! paṃcatthikāyā, esa ṇaṃ evatie loetti pavuccai, taṃ jahā–dhammatthikāe, adhammatthikāe āgāsatthikāe, jīvatthikāe, poggalatthikāe|
dhammatthikāeṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvāṇaṃ kiṃ pavattati?
goyamā! dhammatthikāeṇaṃ jīvāṇaṃ āgamana-gamana-bhāsummesa-manajoga-vaijoga-kāyajogā, je yāvaṇṇe tahappagārā calā bhāvā savve te dhammatthikāe pavattaṃti| gailakkhaṇe ṇaṃ dhammatthikāe|
adhammatthikāeṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvāṇaṃ kiṃ pavattati?
goyamā! adhammatthikāeṇaṃ jīvāṇaṃ ṭhāṇa-nisīyaṇa-tuyaṭṭaṇa, maṇassa ya egattībhāvakaraṇatā, je yāvaṇṇe tahappagārā thirā bhāvā savve te adhammatthikāe pavattaṃti| ṭhāṇalakkhaṇe ṇaṃ adhammatthikāe|
āgāsatthikāeṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvāṇaṃ ajīvāṇa ya kiṃ pavattati?
goyamā! āgāsatthikāe ṇaṃ jīvadavvāṇa ya ajīvadavvāṇa ya bhāyaṇabhūe–

“Venerable Sir! What is called ‘the world’?”
“Gautama! The five extensive substances (astikāya)—just this much is called ‘the world’, namely: the extensive substance of Dharma, the extensive substance of Adharma, the extensive substance of space, the extensive substance of jīva, and the extensive substance of pudgala.”
“Venerable Sir! What function takes place for jīvas through the extensive substance of Dharma?”
“Gautama! Through the extensive substance of Dharma, jīvas have arrival, departure, speech, opening the eyes, mental activity, vocal activity, and physical activity; whatever other moving states of such kind there are, all those function through the extensive substance of Dharma. Motion is the defining characteristic of the extensive substance of Dharma.”
“Venerable Sir! What function takes place for jīvas through the extensive substance of Adharma?”
“Gautama! Through the extensive substance of Adharma, jīvas have standing, sitting, lying down, and making the mind concentrated; whatever other stationary states of such kind there are, all those function through the extensive substance of Adharma. Rest is the defining characteristic of the extensive substance of Adharma.”
“Venerable Sir! What function takes place for jīvas and ajīvas through the extensive substance of space?”
“Gautama! Through the extensive substance of space, it serves as the receptacle for jīva substances and ajīva substances—”

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13.4.576

egeṇa vi se puṇṇe, dohi vi puṇṇe sayaṃ pi māejjā |
koḍisaeṇa vi puṇṇe, koḍisahassaṃ pi māejjā ||

Filled even by one [atom], or filled by two, it could contain even a hundred;
filled even by a hundred crores, it could contain even a thousand crores.

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13.4.577

avagāhaṇālakkhaṇe ṇaṃ āgāsatthikāe|
jīvatthikāe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvāṇaṃ kiṃ pavattati?
goyamā! jīvatthikāeṇaṃ jīve anaṃtāṇaṃ ābhinibohiyanāṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ suyanāṇa-pajjavāṇaṃ anaṃtāṇaṃ ohināṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ manapajjavanāṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ kevalanāṇa -pajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ maiannāṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ suyaannāṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ vibhaṃganāṇa- pajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ cakkhudaṃsaṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ acakkhudaṃsaṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ ohi-daṃsaṇapajjavāṇaṃ, anaṃtāṇaṃ kevaladaṃsaṇapajjavāṇaṃ uvayogaṃ gacchati| uvayogalakkhaṇe ṇaṃ jīve|
poggalatthikāe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! jīvāṇaṃ kiṃ pavattati?
goyamā! poggalatthikāeṇaṃ jīvāṇaṃ orāliya-veuvviya-āhārā-teyā kammā-soiṃdiya-cakkhiṃdiya-ghāṇiṃdiya-jibbhiṃdiya-phāsiṃdiya-maṇajoga-vaijoga-kāyajoga-āṇāpāṇūṇaṃ ca gahaṇaṃ pavattati| gahaṇalakkhaṇe ṇaṃ poggalatthikāe|

“Accommodation is the defining characteristic of the extensive substance of space.
“Venerable Sir! What function takes place for jīvas through the extensive substance of jīva?”
“Gautama! Through the extensive substance of jīva, the jīva engages in application of consciousness (upayoga) towards an infinite number of modes of sensory knowledge, an infinite number of modes of scriptural knowledge, an infinite number of modes of clairvoyance knowledge, an infinite number of modes of telepathic knowledge, an infinite number of modes of omniscience, an infinite number of modes of sensory error, an infinite number of modes of scriptural error, an infinite number of modes of erroneous clairvoyance, an infinite number of modes of ocular apprehension, an infinite number of modes of non-ocular apprehension, an infinite number of modes of clairvoyant apprehension, and an infinite number of modes of omniscient apprehension. Application of consciousness is the defining characteristic of the jīva.
“Venerable Sir! What function takes place for jīvas through the extensive substance of pudgala?”
“Gautama! Through the extensive substance of pudgala, there occurs for jīvas the appropriation of gross, protean, conveyance, fiery, and karmic bodies, the auditory organ, the visual organ, the olfactory organ, the gustatory organ, and the tactile organ, mental activity, vocal activity, and physical activity, and respiration. Appropriation is the defining characteristic of the extensive substance of pudgala.”

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13.4.578

ege bhaṃte! dhammatthikāyapadese kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
goyamā! jahannapade tihiṃ, ukkosapade chahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? jahannapade cauhiṃ, ukkosapade sattahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? sattahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ jīvatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? anaṃtehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ poggalatthikāyapa-desehiṃ puṭṭhe? anaṃtehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ addhāsamaehiṃ puṭṭhe? siya puṭṭhe siya no puṭṭhe, jai puṭṭhe niyamaṃ anaṃtehiṃ|
ege bhaṃte! adhammatthikāyapadese kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
goyamā! jahannapade cauhiṃ, ukkosapade satahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? jahannapade tihiṃ, ukkosapade chahiṃ| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa|
ege bhaṃte! āgāsatthikāyapadese kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
goyamā! siya puṭṭhe siya no puṭṭhe, jai puṭṭhe jahannapade ekkeṇa vā dohiṃ vā tīhiṃ vā, ukkosapade sattahiṃ| evaṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ vi| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? chahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ jīvatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? siya puṭṭhe siya no puṭṭhe, jai puṭṭhe niyamaṃ anaṃtehiṃ| evaṃ poggalatthi-kāyapadesehiṃ vi, addhāsamaehiṃ vi|

“Venerable Sir! By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of Dharma is one spatial unit of the extensive substance of Dharma touched?”
“Gautama! At the minimum, by three; at the maximum, by six.”
“By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of Adharma is it touched?”
“At the minimum, by four; at the maximum, by seven.”
“By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of space is it touched?”
“By seven.”
“By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of jīva is it touched?”
“By an infinite number.”
“By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of pudgala is it touched?”
“By an infinite number.”
“By how many moments of time (addhāsamaya) is it touched?”
“Sometimes it is touched, sometimes it is not touched; if it is touched, necessarily by an infinite number.”
“Venerable Sir! By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of Dharma is one spatial unit of the extensive substance of Adharma touched?”
“Gautama! At the minimum, by four; at the maximum, by seven. By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of Adharma is it touched? At the minimum, by three; at the maximum, by six. The rest is as for the extensive substance of Dharma.”
“Venerable Sir! By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of Dharma is one spatial unit of the extensive substance of space touched?”
“Gautama! Sometimes it is touched, sometimes it is not touched; if it is touched, at the minimum by one, or two, or three, and at the maximum by seven. So also with the spatial units of the extensive substance of Adharma. By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of space is it touched? By six. By how many spatial units of the extensive substance of jīva is it touched? Sometimes it is touched, sometimes it is not touched; if it is touched, necessarily by an infinite number. So also with the spatial units of the extensive substance of pudgala, and with moments of time.”

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

13.4.579

ege bhaṃte! jīvatthikāyapadese kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
jahannapade cauhiṃ, ukkosapade sattahiṃ| evaṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ vi| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? sattahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ jīvatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? anaṃtehiṃ| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa|
ege bhaṃte! poggalatthikāyapadese kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
evaṃ jaheva jīvatthikāyassa|
do bhaṃte! poggalatthikāyapadesā kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā?
goyamā! jahannapade chahiṃ, ukkosapade bārasahiṃ| evaṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ vi| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā? bārasahiṃ| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa|
tinni bhaṃte! poggalatthikāyapadesā kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā? jahannapade aṭṭhahiṃ, ukkosapade sattara-sahiṃ| evaṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ vi| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā? sattarasahiṃ| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa| evaṃ eeṇaṃ gameṇaṃ bhāṇiyavvā jāva dasa, navaraṃ–jahannapade donnipakkhiviyavvā, ukkosapade paṃca| cattāri poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade dasahiṃ, ukkosa-pade bāvīsāe| paṃca poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade bārasahiṃ ukkosapade sattāvīsāe| cha poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade coddasahiṃ, ukkosapade battīsāe| satta poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade solasahiṃ, ukkosapade satta tīsāe| aṭṭha poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade aṭṭhārasahiṃ, ukkosapade bāyālīsāe| nava poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade vīsāe, ukkosapade sīyālīsāe| dasa poggalatthikāyassa padesā jahannapade bāvīsāe, ukkosapade bāvannāe| āgāsatthikāyassa savvattha ukkosagaṃ bhāṇiyavvaṃ|
saṃkhejjā bhaṃte! poggalatthikāyapadesā kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā?
jahannapade teṇeva saṃkhejjaeṇaṃ duguṇeṇaṃ durūvāhieṇaṃ, ukkosapade teṇeva saṃkhejjaeṇaṃ paṃcaguṇeṇaṃ durūvāhieṇaṃ| kevatiehiṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ? evaṃ ceva| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesehiṃ? teṇeva saṃkhejjaeṇaṃ paṃcaguṇeṇaṃ durūvāhieṇaṃ| kevatiehiṃ jīvatthikāyapadesehiṃ? anaṃtehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ poggalatthikāyapadesehiṃ? anaṃtehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ addhāsamaehiṃ? siya puṭṭhe, siya no puṭṭhe, jai puṭṭhe niyamaṃ anaṃtehiṃ|
asaṃkhejjā bhaṃte! poggatthikāyapadesā kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā?
jahannapade teṇeva asaṃkhejjaeṇaṃ duguṇeṇaṃ durūvāhieṇaṃ, ukkosapade teṇeva asaṃkhejjaeṇaṃ paṃcaguṇeṇaṃ durūvāhieṇaṃ| sesaṃ jahā saṃkhejjāṇaṃ jāva niyamaṃ anaṃtehiṃ|
anaṃtā bhaṃte! poggalatthikāyapadesā kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhā?
evaṃ jahā asaṃkhejjā tahā anaṃtā vi niravasesaṃ|
ege bhaṃte! addhāsamae kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
sattahiṃ| kevatiehiṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? evaṃ ceva, evaṃ āgāsatthikāehiṃ vi| kevatiehiṃ jīvatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe? anaṃtehiṃ, evaṃ jāva addhāsamaehiṃ|
dhammatthikāe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
natthi ekkeṇa vi| kevatiehiṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ? asaṃkhejjehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ āgāsatthi-kāyapadesehiṃ? asaṃkhejjehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ jīvatthikāyapadesehiṃ? anaṃtehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ poggalatthi-kāyapadesehiṃ? anaṃtehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ addhāsamaehiṃ? siya puṭṭhe siya no puṭṭhe, jai puṭṭhe niyamā anaṃtehiṃ|
adhammatthikāe ṇaṃ bhaṃte! kevatiehiṃ dhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ puṭṭhe?
asaṃkhejjehiṃ| kevatiehiṃ adhammatthikāyapadesehiṃ? natthi ekkeṇa vi| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa| evaṃ eṇaṃ gamaeṇaṃ savve vi saṭṭhāṇae natthi ekkeṇa vi puṭṭhā, paraṭṭhāṇae ādillaehiṃ tihiṃ asaṃkhejjehiṃ bhāṇiyavvaṃ, pacchillaesu tisu anaṃtā bhāṇiyavvā jāva addhāsamayo tti jāva kevatiehiṃ addhāsamaehiṃ puṭṭhe? natthi ekkeṇa vi|

"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma is one space-point of the entity of jīva touched?"
"At the minimum, by four; at the maximum, by seven. Likewise also by [space-points of] the entity of adharma. By how many space-points of the entity of space is it touched? By seven. By how many space-points of the entity of jīva is it touched? By infinitely many. The rest is as for the entity of dharma."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma is one space-point of the entity of pudgala touched?"
"Just as for the entity of jīva."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma are two space-points of the entity of pudgala touched?"
"Gautama! At the minimum, by six; at the maximum, by twelve. Likewise also by [space-points of] the entity of adharma. By how many space-points of the entity of space are they touched? By twelve. The rest is as for the entity of dharma."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma are three space-points of the entity of pudgala touched?"
"At the minimum, by eight; at the maximum, by seventeen. Likewise also by [space-points of] the entity of adharma. By how many space-points of the entity of space are they touched? By seventeen. The rest is as for the entity of dharma. In this manner, it should be stated according to this pattern up to ten, with the exception that: at the minimum, two are to be added; at the maximum, five. Four space-points of the entity of pudgala [are touched] at the minimum by ten, at the maximum by twenty-two. Five space-points of the entity of pudgala at the minimum by twelve, at the maximum by twenty-seven. Six space-points of the entity of pudgala at the minimum by fourteen, at the maximum by thirty-two. Seven space-points of the entity of pudgala at the minimum by sixteen, at the maximum by thirty-seven. Eight space-points of the entity of pudgala at the minimum by eighteen, at the maximum by forty-two. Nine space-points of the entity of pudgala at the minimum by twenty, at the maximum by forty-seven. Ten space-points of the entity of pudgala at the minimum by twenty-two, at the maximum by fifty-two. For the entity of space, the maximum [count] is to be stated everywhere."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma are numerable space-points of the entity of pudgala touched?"
"At the minimum, by twice that numerable [number] increased by two; at the maximum, by five times that numerable [number] increased by two. By how many space-points of the entity of adharma? Just the same. By how many space-points of the entity of space? By five times that numerable [number] increased by two. By how many space-points of the entity of jīva? By infinitely many. By how many space-points of the entity of pudgala? By infinitely many. By how many time-units? It may be touched, or it may not be touched; if touched, invariably by infinitely many."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma are innumerable space-points of the entity of pudgala touched?"
"At the minimum, by twice that innumerable [number] increased by two; at the maximum, by five times that innumerable [number] increased by two. The rest is as for the numerable up to 'invariably by infinitely many'."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma are infinitely many space-points of the entity of pudgala touched?"
"Just as for the innumerable, so also completely for the infinitely many."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma is one time-unit touched?"
"By seven. By how many space-points of the entity of adharma is it touched? Just the same; likewise also by [space-points of] the entity of space. By how many space-points of the entity of jīva is it touched? By infinitely many; likewise up to [space-points of] time-units."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma is the entity of dharma touched?"
"By none at all. By how many space-points of the entity of adharma? By innumerably many. By how many space-points of the entity of space? By innumerably many. By how many space-points of the entity of jīva? By infinitely many. By how many space-points of the entity of pudgala? By infinitely many. By how many time-units? It may be touched, or it may not be touched; if touched, invariably by infinitely many."
"Venerable Sir! By how many space-points of the entity of dharma is the entity of adharma touched?"
"By innumerably many. By how many space-points of the entity of adharma? By none at all. The rest is as for the entity of dharma. In this manner, according to this pattern, none at all are touched in their own position; in an external position, for the first three [it] should be stated as innumerably many, and for the latter three infinitely many should be stated up to the time-unit, up to: 'By how many time-units is it touched? By none at all.'"

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

13.4.580

jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege dhammatthikāyapadese ogāḍhe, tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
natthi ekko vi| kevatiyā adhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā? ekko| kevatiyā āgāsatthikāya-padesā ogāḍhā? ekko| kevatiyā kevatiyā jīvatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā? anaṃtā| kevatiyā poggalatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā? anaṃtā| kevatiyā addhāsamaya ogāḍhā? siya ogāḍhā, siya no ogāḍhā, jai ogāḍhā anaṃtā|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege adhammatthikāyapadese ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
ekko| kevatiyā adhammatthikāyapadesā? natthi ekko vi| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege āgāsatthikāyapadese ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
siya ogāḍhā, siya no ogāḍhā, jai ogāḍhā ekko| evaṃ adhammatthikāyapadesā vi| kevatiyā āgāsatthikāyapadesā? natthi ekko vi| kevatiyā jīvatthikāyapadesā? siya ogāḍhā, siya no ogāḍhā, jai ogāḍhā anaṃtā| evaṃ jāva addhāsamayā|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege jīvatthikāyapadese ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
ekko, evaṃ adhammatthikāyapadesā vi, evaṃ āgāsatthikāyapadesā vi| kevatiyā jīvatthikāyapadesā? anaṃtā| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege poggalatthikāyapadese ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
evaṃ jahā jīvatthikāyapadese taheva niravasesaṃ|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! do poggalatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
siya ekko siya doṇṇi, evaṃ adhammatthikāyassa vi, evaṃ āgāsatthikāyassa vi| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! tinni poggalatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
siya ekko, siya doṇṇi, siya tinni, evaṃ adhammatthikāyassa vi, evaṃ āgāsatthikāyassa vi| sesaṃ jaheva doṇhaṃ, evaṃ ekkekko vaḍḍhiyavvo padeso āillaehiṃ tihiṃ atthikāehiṃ, sesehiṃ jaheva doṇhaṃ jāva dasaṇhaṃ siya ekko, siya doṇṇi, siya tinni jāva siya dasa| saṃkhejjāṇaṃ siya ekko, siya donnijāva siya dasa, siya saṃkhejjā| asaṃkhejjāṇaṃ siya ekko jāva siya saṃkhejjā, siya asaṃkhejjā| jahā asaṃkhejjā evaṃ anaṃtā vi|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege addhāsamae ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā? ekko| kevatiyā adhammatthikāyapadesā? ekko| kevatiyā āgāsatthikāyapadesā? ekko| kevatiyā jīvatthikāyapadesā? anaṃtā| evaṃ jāva addhāsamayā|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! dhammatthikāe ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā? natthi ekko vi| kevatiyā adhammatthikāyapadesā? asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā āgāsatthikāyapadesā? asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā jīvatthikāyapadesā? anaṃtā| evaṃ jāva addhāsamayā|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! adhammatthikāe ogāḍhe tattha kevatiyā dhammatthikāyapadesā ogāḍhā?
asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā adhammatthikāyapadesā? natthi ekko vi| sesaṃ jahā dhammatthikāyassa| evaṃ savve–saṭṭhāṇe natthi ekko vi bhāṇiyavvo, paraṭṭhāṇe ādillagā tinni asaṃkhejjā bhāṇiyavvā, pacchillagā tinni anaṃtā bhāṇiyavvā jāva addhāsamayo tti jāva kevatiyā addhāsamayā ogāḍhā? natthi ekko vi|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege puḍhavikkāie ogāḍhe tattha ṇaṃ kevatiyā puḍhavikkāiyā ogāḍhā?
asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā āukkāiyā ogāḍhā? asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā teukāiyā ogāḍhā? asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā vāukāiyā ogāḍhā? asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā vaṇassaikāiyā ogāḍhā? anaṃtā|
jattha ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ege āukkāie ogāḍhe tattha ṇaṃ kevatiyā puḍhavikkāiyā ogāḍhā? asaṃkhejjā| kevatiyā āukkāiyā ogāḍhā? asaṃkhejjā|
evaṃ jaheva puḍhavikkāiyāṇaṃ vattavvayā taheva savvesiṃ niravasesaṃ bhāṇiyavvaṃ jāva vaṇassaikāiyāṇaṃ jāva kevatiyā vaṇassaikāiyā ogāḍhā? anaṃtā|

"Where, Venerable Sir, one point of the medium of motion is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"Not even one. How many points of the medium of rest are accommodated? One. How many points of space are accommodated? One. How many points of the soul are accommodated? Infinitely many. How many points of matter are accommodated? Infinitely many. How many time-units are accommodated? Perhaps they are accommodated, perhaps they are not accommodated; if they are accommodated, infinitely many.
Where, Venerable Sir, one point of the medium of rest is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"One. How many points of the medium of rest? Not even one. The rest is as for the medium of motion.
Where, Venerable Sir, one point of space is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"Perhaps they are accommodated, perhaps they are not accommodated; if they are accommodated, one. Likewise also for the points of the medium of rest. How many points of space? Not even one. How many points of the soul? Perhaps they are accommodated, perhaps they are not accommodated; if they are accommodated, infinitely many. In this way up to time-units.
Where, Venerable Sir, one point of the soul is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"One. Likewise also for points of the medium of rest; likewise also for points of space. How many points of the soul? Infinitely many. The rest is as for the medium of motion.
Where, Venerable Sir, one point of matter is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"Just as for a point of the soul, so it is in its entirety.
Where, Venerable Sir, two points of matter are accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"Perhaps one, perhaps two. Likewise also for the medium of rest; likewise also for space. The rest is as for the medium of motion.
Where, Venerable Sir, three points of matter are accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"Perhaps one, perhaps two, perhaps three. Likewise also for the medium of rest; likewise also for space. The rest is just as for two. In this manner, one point should be added for each of the first three substances; with the remaining, it is just as for two, up to ten: perhaps one, perhaps two, perhaps three, up to perhaps ten. For numerable: perhaps one, perhaps two, up to perhaps ten, perhaps numerable. For innumerable: perhaps one, up to perhaps numerable, perhaps innumerable. As for innumerable, so also for infinitely many.
Where, Venerable Sir, one time-unit is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there? One. How many points of the medium of rest? One. How many points of space? One. How many points of the soul? Infinitely many. In this way up to time-units.
Where, Venerable Sir, the medium of motion is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there? Not even one. How many points of the medium of rest? Innumerable. How many points of space? Innumerable. How many points of the soul? Infinitely many. In this way up to time-units.
Where, Venerable Sir, the medium of rest is accommodated, how many points of the medium of motion are accommodated there?"
"Innumerable. How many points of the medium of rest? Not even one. The rest is as for the medium of motion. In this way all should be spoken of: in its own substrate, 'not even one' should be stated; in an other substrate, the first three should be stated as innumerable, and the last three should be stated as infinitely many, up to time-unit, up to 'how many time-units are accommodated? Not even one.'
Where, Venerable Sir, one earth-bodied soul is accommodated, how many earth-bodied souls are accommodated there?"
"Innumerable. How many water-bodied souls are accommodated? Innumerable. How many fire-bodied souls are accommodated? Innumerable. How many air-bodied souls are accommodated? Innumerable. How many plant-bodied souls are accommodated? Infinitely many.
Where, Venerable Sir, one water-bodied soul is accommodated, how many earth-bodied souls are accommodated there? Innumerable. How many water-bodied souls are accommodated? Innumerable.
In this manner, just as stated for the earth-bodied souls, so must it be stated entirely for all of them, up to plant-bodied souls, up to: how many plant-bodied souls are accommodated? Infinitely many."

English (machine translation) (machine translation)

13.4.581

eyaṃsi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! dhammatthikāya-adhammatthikāya-āgāsatthikāyaṃsi cakkiyā keī āsaittae vā saittae vā ciṭṭhittae vā nisīyattae vā tuyaṭṭittae vā?
no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe, anaṃtā puṇattha jīvā ogāḍhā|
se keṇaṭṭheṇaṃ bhaṃte! evaṃ vuccai–eyaṃsi ṇaṃ dhammatthikāya-adhammatthikāya-āgāsatthikāyaṃsi no cakkiyā keī āsaittae vā saittae vā ciṭṭhittae vā nisīyattae vā tuyaṭṭittae vā anaṃtā puṇattha jīvā ogāḍhā?
goyamā! se jahānāmae kūḍāgārasālā siyā–duhao littā guttā guttaduvārā ṇivāyā nivāyagaṃbhīrā| aha ṇaṃ keī purise pado-vasahassaṃ gahāya kūḍāgārasālāe aṃto-aṃto anuppavisai, anuppavisittā tīse kūḍāgārasālāe savvato samaṃtā ghana-niciya-niraṃtara -nicchiḍḍāiṃ duvāravayaṇāiṃ pihei, pihettā tīse kūḍāgārasālāe bahumajjhadesabhāe jahanneṇaṃ ekko vā do vā tinni vā, ukkoseṇaṃ padīvasahassaṃ palīvejjā| se nūnaṃ goyamā! tāo padīvalessāo annamannasaṃbaddhāo annamannapuṭṭhāo annamanna-saṃbaddhapuṭṭhāo annamannaghaḍattāe ciṭṭhaṃti?
haṃtā ciṭṭhaṃti|
cakkiyā ṇaṃ goyamā! keī tāsu padīvalessāsu āsaittae vā jāva tuyaṭṭittae vā?
bhagavaṃ! no iṇaṭṭhe samaṭṭhe| anaṃtā puṇattha jīvā ogāḍhā| se teṇaṭṭheṇaṃ goyamā! evaṃ vuccai jāva anaṃtā puṇattha jīvā ogāḍhā

"In this [space], Venerable Sir, of the medium of motion, the medium of rest, and space, is someone able to sit upon it, or recline upon it, or stand, or sit down, or lie down?"
"This meaning is not competent. But infinitely many souls are accommodated there."
"For what reason, Venerable Sir, is it said thus: 'In this [space] of the medium of motion, the medium of rest, and space, someone is not able to sit upon it, or recline upon it, or stand, or sit down, or lie down, but infinitely many souls are accommodated there'?"
"Gautama! It is just as if there were a gabled hall—plastered on both sides, guarded, with guarded doors, windless, deeply windless. Then a man, taking a thousand lamps, enters inside the gabled hall; having entered, he closes the door openings of that gabled hall on all sides, dense, packed, without gap, and hole-less; having closed them, in the exact center of that gabled hall, at the minimum he would light one, or two, or three, [and] at the maximum a thousand lamps. Indeed, Gautama, do the radiances of those lamps remain interjoined, touching one another, interjoined and touching one another, formed into one another?"
"Yes, they remain [so]."
"Is someone able, Gautama, to sit upon those radiances of the lamps, or up to lie down?"
"Lord! This meaning is not competent. But infinitely many souls are accommodated there."
"For that reason, Gautama, it is said thus: up to infinitely many souls are accommodated there."

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13.4.582

kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! loe bahusame, kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! loe savvaviggahie pannatte?
goyamā! imīse rayaṇappabhāe puḍhavīe uvarimaheṭṭhillesu khuḍḍagapayaresu, ettha ṇaṃ loe bahusame, ettha ṇaṃ loe savvaviggahie pannatte|
kahi ṇaṃ bhaṃte! viggahaviggahie loe pannatte?
goyamā! viggahakaṃḍae, ettha ṇaṃ viggahaviggahie loe pannatte|

"Where, Venerable Sir, is the world declared to be very even? Where, Venerable Sir, is the world declared to be completely contracted?"
"Gautama! In this Ratnaprabhā earth, in the upper and lower minor layers, there the world is declared to be very even, and there the world is declared to be completely contracted."
"Where, Venerable Sir, is the world declared to be contracted-and-contracted?"
"Gautama! In the Vigrahakāṇḍaka, there the world is declared to be contracted-and-contracted."

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13.4.583

kiṃsaṃṭhie ṇaṃ bhaṃte! loe pannatte?
goyamā! supaiṭṭhiyasaṃṭhie loe pannatte–heṭṭhā vicchiṇṇe, majjhe saṃkhitte, uppiṃ bisāle; ahe paliyaṃkasaṃṭhie, majjhe varavaira-viggahie, uppiṃ uddhamuiṃgākārasaṃṭhie| taṃsi ca ṇaṃ sāsayaṃsi logaṃsi heṭṭhā vicchiṇṇaṃsi jāva uppiṃ uddhamuiṃgākārasaṃṭhiyaṃsi uppannanāṇa-daṃsaṇadhare arahā jine kevalī jīve vi jāṇai-pāsai, ajīve vi jāṇai-pāsai, tao pacchā sijjhai bujjhai muccai parinivvāi savvadukkhāṇaṃ aṃtaṃ kareti|
eyassa ṇaṃ bhaṃte! ahelogassa, tiriyalogassa, uḍḍhalogassa ya kayare kayarehiṃto appā vā? bahuyā vā? tullā vā? visesāhiyā vā?
goyamā! savvatthove tiriyaloe, uḍḍhaloe asaṃkhejjaguṇe, aheloe visesāhie|
sevaṃ bhaṃte! sevaṃ bhaṃte! tti|

"Of what shape, Venerable Sir, is the world declared to be?"
"Gautama! The world is declared to be of the shape of an auspicious stand: wide at the bottom, contracted in the middle, and broad at the top; like a couch below, contracted like an excellent diamond in the middle, and shaped like an upright mṛdaṅga drum at the top. And in that eternal world, wide at the bottom up to shaped like an upright mṛdaṅga drum at the top, the arhat, jina, kevalin, possessing arisen knowledge and vision, knows and sees the living beings, and knows and sees the non-living things; then afterwards he attains perfection, becomes enlightened, is liberated, attains final nirvāṇa, and brings an end to all suffering."
"Venerable Sir! Among this lower world, horizontal world, and upper world, which is less, more, equal, or especially greater than which?"
"Gautama! The horizontal world is the smallest of all; the upper world is innumerably times greater; the lower world is especially greater."
"So it is, Venerable Sir! So it is, Venerable Sir!"

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